[Core Port Req.] (DuckStation, PSX)

TASEmulators / BizHawk

BizHawk is a multi-system emulator written in C#. BizHawk provides nice features for casual gamers such as full screen, and joypad support in addition to full rerecording and debugging tools for all system cores.

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[Core Port Req.] (DuckStation, PSX) #3392

Closed Danik2343 closed 3 weeks ago

Danik2343 commented 2 years ago

Upstream info

Website
Target platforms: Win10+ and Linux, x64 and arm64
Source repo
Language(s): C++
License: ~~GPLv3~~ CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

Merits

The emulator emulates PSX very well, even replaced ePSXe

Technical details

(able to build .dll/.so for P/Invoke?) unknown
(frontend/backend separation--for example, can backend be built without SDL?) No, SDL required
(can force single-threaded?) unknown
(has I/O abstraction accepting byte array, or only accepts file paths? for disc-based consoles, can swap out implementation for BizHawk's?) unknown
(savestate quality) "Good"

Alternatives:

https://github.com/BluestormDNA/ProjectPSX

CasualPokePlayer commented 2 years ago

What's the point of this when we have Nymashock (i.e. waterboxed mednafen PSX core). As a note JITs and hardware renderers cannot be waterboxed, and I highly doubt DuckStation's savestates are perfect.

Spikestuff commented 2 years ago

What's the point of this when we have Nymashock (i.e. waterboxed mednafen PSX core).

There's no point, especially when some of the stuff within DuckStation is based on mednafen.

DuckStation also has a heavy addition of selectable hacks, which is better to prevent anyone from asking for such features, and goodsizers, that have never been only part of two PlayStation encodes for the site itself, before being promptly ditched and ignored for software rendering. Which slowly something similar is being done to another 5th Gen counterpart on BizHawk. Nintendo 64.

What's the point of doing more work to avoid implementing where less work is actually better (mednafen)?

The emulator emulates PSX very well, even replaced ePSXe

Not worth a point of comparison when ePSXe is a closed source emulator full of hacks and junk. It would've been more fair to compare it to PCSX-R[-PGXP].

CasualPokePlayer commented 3 weeks ago

Duckstation recently has switched their licensed to CC No-Derivatives Non-Commercial, so it's effectively just source available, disallowing someone like us making a core out of their emulator. We technically have an option of using the last GPLv3 version, but such usage would forever be stuck with effectively a "dead" upstream, and not much point since again Nymashock exists.