add first and last page recommandation for biblScope

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add first and last page recommandation for biblScope #174

Closed TEITechnicalCouncil closed 9 years ago

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

I suggest to add fpage and lpage as recommended values for biblScope/@type in the documentation. Reason is:

we often need to encode more precise information in bibliographical references
meta-data provided by publishers differentiate between first and last page information in their format and one may want to keep this precision
there is quite some heterogeneity in the way pp content is encoded (e.g. with or without white spaces, double dash, etc.)
documenting these fpage and lpage recommendation would help such data be interoperable (quite a few projects are already using similar value, but with quite a variety of labels)

Original comment by: sfuser*anonymous

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

Forgot to log in. I submitted it. Laurent

Original comment by: @laurentromary

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

how about @fromPage and @toPage (and no content): like <biblScope fromPage="1" toPage="23"/> as an alternative to <biblScope type="pp">1-23</biblScope> or (I suppose) <biblScope fromPage="1" toPage="23">pp 1-23</biblScope> This leaves open the question of what to do in the case of inconsistency: <biblScope fromPage="1" toPage="23">pp 1-233</biblScope>

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

milestone: --> 871207

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

milestone: 871207 --> 871209

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

I'd agree with Lou except on the names of the attributes. I wouldn't want 'Page' to be included in the attribute. (i.e. biblScope could be documenting a range of line numbers or other things.) However, @from/@to is used for both data.pointer and data.temporal in various elements. I'd also hate to extend @from/@to just to be data.numeric or something on this element. @biblFrom @biblTo just seem to reiterate information we know from the element name.

So I'm in favour, but just with better names. ;-)

Original comment by: @jamescummings

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

@from/@to has type data.word on locus. That would seem appropriate here too.

Like James, I wouldn't like @fromPage and @toPage, because pages would then be handled differently from volumes, chapters, etc.

Original comment by: @pboot

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

I also agree with James here.

Original comment by: sf_user_ariannaciula

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

The proposal original submitted was specifically about page ranges, since these are very commonly encountered in bibliographies. If you generalise it to ranges of any kind, you will need to require that the @type attribute be supplied (or has an explicit default) Otherwise you can't tell what <biblScope from="1" to="3"/> actually means.

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

milestone: 871209 --> GREEN

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

Implemented @from and @to, with requirement that @type be used to indicate what, at revision 5926

Original comment by: @lb42

TEITechnicalCouncil commented 15 years ago

status: open --> closed

Original comment by: @lb42