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rephrasing of gloss and description of <msName> #2434

Open sabineseifert opened 1 year ago

sabineseifert commented 1 year ago

The gloss and description of <msName> seem kind of arbitrary: Gloss: "alternative name" - alternative to what? And where is that information captured? Description: "contains any form of unstructured alternative name used for a manuscript or other object, such as an ‘ocellus nominum’, or nickname." - again, alternative name to what? https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-msName.html

sabineseifert commented 1 year ago

@jamescummings had a suggestion for rephrasing at the F2F in Guelph?!

jamescummings commented 1 year ago

Hi, I would remove the 'ocellus nominum' since most people won't know what that means and MS cataloguers who do would use this element anyway when appropriate.

I'd say something like:

contains an proper noun or noun phrase used for a manuscript, or other object, instead of any formal identification number or classmark.

That brings it more in line with objectName and other name elements but with the specification that it isn't the structured forms like classmark which should go in idno.

schassan commented 1 year ago

I second James' interpretation and proposal, as in my understanding, msName is alternative respectively additional to idno.

sydb commented 9 months ago

The OP is clearly correct, in that the <gloss> of the <msName> is egregiously wrong; it should almost certainly be “manuscript name”. (The gloss simply expands the name of the element, which is by definition an arbitrary identifier, into words in a particular natural language. It does not define the element semantics.)