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encoding of pre-printed parts in correspondence #2458

Open sabineseifert opened 1 year ago

sabineseifert commented 1 year ago

On telegrams and postcards, there are often pre-printed parts. A proper markup of these pre-printed parts in order to distinguish these from handwritten text is desirable as these text parts are in relation / have influenced the genesis of the handwritten text. E.g. see here example 4 https://encoding-correspondence.bbaw.de/v1/pre-printed-parts.html#c-3-1 on the left side of the field postcard.

There should be recommendations, encoding examples and some prose in the Guidelines.

A discussion at a workshop on encoding correspondence resulted in the article "Pre-printed parts: Letterheads and forms", in which serveral possibilities are being discussed (with examples) and to which I will refer below.

How to encode such pre-printed parts of texts?

  1. Using <ab> https://encoding-correspondence.bbaw.de/v1/pre-printed-parts.html#c-3-1

    • e.g. with attributes type="pre-printed", type="handwritten", type="typed"
    • but there is no such convention of using attribute 'type' like this in TEI
    • too unspecific?
    • there may be cases in which pre-printed parts express date or location and belong in <opener> but <ab> is not allowed there
  2. Using <fw> https://encoding-correspondence.bbaw.de/v1/pre-printed-parts.html#c-3-2

    • tag abuse? pre-printed parts need not be a running head but rather occur on a single page and are not a continuous feature
    • e.g. with attributes type="pre-printed", type="handwritten", type="typed"
    • but again: no such convention of using attribute 'type' like this in TEI
  3. Using <seg> https://encoding-correspondence.bbaw.de/v1/pre-printed-parts.html#c-3-4

    • is inline element and necessity to enclose it with a block element might be problematic
    • e.g. with attributes type="pre-printed", type="handwritten", type="typed"
    • but again: no such usage convention of attribute type like this in TEI
  4. Using <handShift>, or introduce new element e.g. <formShift> https://encoding-correspondence.bbaw.de/v1/pre-printed-parts.html#c-3-5

    • contrary to definition of <handShift>, we here have shifts not just between different hands but between hands, pre-printed forms, and typed text (with typewriter)
    • maybe introduce new element like <formShift> to mark the points of transition? with attribute 'type' and values like pre-printed, handwritten, typed
sydb commented 1 year ago

@sabineseifert, could you comment on the differences between this and #2457? (My instinct is that a pre-printed letterhead is a subset of what is discussed on this ticket.)

npcole commented 1 year ago

@sydb What about pre-printed forms or other such items? Do we need a more generic approach than just letterhead?

timofruehwirth commented 1 year ago

How do you feel about using @hand (instead of @type) for indicating writing technologies (handwritten, typed, pre-printed)?

sydb commented 1 year ago

As mentioned on #2457, my first instinct is to use @src to differentiate pre-printed from authorial content. I think it would be a bit of a hack to use @hand, but it is not crazy. (Certainly a human hand types on the typewriter, right? :-)

But as @hand is to <handShift>, seems to me a @form (or whatever) attribute could be invented to be parallel to the suggested <formShift>. On the other hand, is there any theoretical difference between form[at] and rendition? I.e., is pre-printed vs typedwritten vs handwritten a subset of @rend|@rendition?

sydb commented 1 year ago

Implemented in a branch. See the tagdoc and the prose, or try out the (lame) exemplar schema.

(Note to future readers of this comment — as you might infer from the “temp/” in the URLs, above, those pointers are likely to disappear, especially if & when this idea is either discarded or included in TEI P5 by the TEI Council.)

bwbohl commented 11 months ago

Thanks for openin this issue. What you describe are issues that many of the projects involved in the recent TEI-MEC conference panel on Materiality in editions of 20th-century paperbound correspondence are facing, too. Unfortunately, due to other obligations, I didn’t make it to the SIG Correspondence meeting, though…

Although my thoughts on the issues raised were correspondence-centered so far. Nevertheless, in light of @npcole’s comment, I think a general approach for handling preprinted material might be favorable.

N.B. A special cross-over case of forms and correspondence might be telegrams!

sabineseifert commented 11 months ago

One might consider pre-printed parts and letterheads quite close but semantically they constitute two different phenomena.

And yes, we need a generic approach of encoding pre-printed stuff and we need a recommendation for the case of letterheads.

Using @src to differentiate pre-printed from authorial content sounds interesting.

sabineseifert commented 10 months ago

It seems reasonable to consider all three things together:

  1. letterheads as special case of pre-printed parts (ticket #2457),
  2. (smaller) pre-printed parts (this ticket), and
  3. bigger structures of pre-printed parts like forms, questionnaires etc. (with blank spaces to fill out, with checkboxes etc.)

(and not to have different solutions for each).

See comment here: #2457.