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TaxoDros - The database on Taxonomy of Drosophilidae. Compiled by Gerhard Bächli, Universität Zürich-Irchel, Institut für Evolutionsbiologie und Umweltforschung, Zürich, Switzerland. https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8402-176X
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metadata of taxodros deposity in Zenodo #5

Closed myrmoteras closed 4 months ago

myrmoteras commented 4 months ago

question from here

checked deposits

https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28809
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28811
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28813
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28815
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28817
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28819
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28821
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28823
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28825
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28827
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28829
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28831
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28833
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28835
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28837
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28839
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28841
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28843
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28845
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28847
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28849
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28851
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28853
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28855
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28857
https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28859

Comments

Deposits

  1. Add communities: taxodros, biosyslit (BLR)
  2. Add keywords: Add a minimal set of keywords, such as "biodiversity", Drosophilidae (or if it is a different family the respective family), higher taxonomy, ie animalia, arthropoda, insecta, diptera
  3. make sure, it is co-owned by biosyslit and taxodros (important for later processing)
  4. is this an error (no title) or omission? https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28825 could be Doings of Societies: Entomological Section. The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia

General

  1. Deposits that are already in BLR from Plazi and including links to treatments etc,. should not be replaced, but the deposit number should be used in the taxodros file. If we do not do this, then we loose all the links etc. here is the list in html, csv and json
  2. add to "description" "uploaded by Plazi for Taxodros" [We do not have abstracts.
  3. book chapter should be "book chapter" not "books" https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28855 , https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28843
  4. What do we do with incomplete articles, eg in this https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28853 pages 458 - 481 are missing, or where Bächli used just a few pages https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28811
  5. What shall we do if we discover page range errors? leave, fix, tell Bächli? eg https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28839 should be 73-104 instead of 105
  6. are you sure that you add the DOI to the existing DOI if there is one? E.g. https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28821 has a doi https://doi.org/10.1155/1915/52945 or https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28819 has https://doi.org/10.5962/bhl.title.1681
  7. Are you sure, you do not upload articles that are already in Zenodo? https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28829 has https://zenodo.org/records/225270
  8. did you extend all the abbreviated journal names? https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28835 has the abbreviated name Bull. Inst. Sci. Ind., Melb.,

Questions

  1. Existing deposits: change the deposits and create a new version, leave as is or just updated metadata, add taxodros community?
jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

@myrmoteras thanks for sharing! Hoping to review your notes in the next couple of days. Thanks for being patient. . .

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

Add communities: taxodros, biosyslit (BLR)

Deposits are already registered with taxodros and biosyslit via the Zenodo metadata. Please provide examples if you have evidence to suggest otherwise.

Add keywords: Add a minimal set of keywords, such as "biodiversity", Drosophilidae (or if it is a different family the respective family), higher taxonomy, ie animalia, arthropoda, insecta, diptera

I can add default keywords - please provide a detailed description and how you'd like to see them linked. E.g., would you want to see Animalia as a DwC kingdom terms annotation or simply a keyword text snippet.

make sure, it is co-owned by biosyslit and taxodros (important for later processing)

Deposits are already registered (and co-owned) with taxodros and biosyslit via the Zenodo metadata. Please provide examples if you have evidence to suggest otherwise.

is this an error (no title) or omission? https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28825 could be Doings of Societies: Entomological Section. The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia

see https://github.com/TaxoDros/TaxoDros.github.io/issues/6

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

Deposits that are already in BLR from Plazi and including links to treatments etc,. should not be replaced, but the deposit number should be used in the taxodros file. If we do not do this, then we loose all the links etc. here is the list in html, csv and json

The scope of the project is TaxoDros. As discussed, any other alignment beyond the 183 existing TaxaDros records would be done as part of future projects.

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

add to "description" "uploaded by Plazi for Taxodros" [We do not have abstracts.

see https://github.com/TaxoDros/TaxoDros.github.io/issues/7 .

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

book chapter should be "book chapter" not "books" https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28855 , https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28843

see https://github.com/TaxoDros/TaxoDros.github.io/issues/8 .

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

What do we do with incomplete articles, eg in this https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28853 pages 458 - 481 are missing, or where Bächli used just a few pages https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28811

What shall we do if we discover page range errors? leave, fix, tell Bächli? eg https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28839 should be 73-104 instead of 105

I favor to fix data issues at the source, especially for actively managed and curated projects. Suggest to create separate issues and share them with Bächli directly.

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

are you sure that you add the DOI to the existing DOI if there is one? E.g. https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28821 has a doi https://doi.org/10.1155/1915/52945 or https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28819 has https://doi.org/10.5962/bhl.title.1681

see https://github.com/TaxoDros/TaxoDros.github.io/issues/9

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

did you extend all the abbreviated journal names? https://sandbox.zenodo.org/records/28835 has the abbreviated name Bull. Inst. Sci. Ind., Melb.,

Yes, all journal names are extended as far as the extensions are available through TaxoDros expansion table. I made a note of the specific example you gave at https://github.com/TaxoDros/TaxoDros.github.io/issues/11 .

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

Existing deposits: change the deposits and create a new version, leave as is or just updated metadata, add taxodros community?

Would you happen to have some personnel to edit metadata records of the existing 180 (or so) TaxoDros associated record and add TaxoDros identifiers? This would make the update process easier to automated and would save me hours of copy-paste work.

myrmoteras commented 4 months ago

Existing deposits: change the deposits and create a new version, leave as is or just updated metadata, add taxodros community?

Would you happen to have some personnel to edit metadata records of the existing 180 (or so) TaxoDros associated record and add TaxoDros identifiers? This would make the update process easier to automated and would save me hours of copy-paste work.

Do you mean all the articles that are in Zenodo AND are in Taxodros? Not just the ones that we uploaded before, but all the ones that we processed independently of Taxodros?

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

Do you mean all the articles that are in Zenodo AND are in Taxodros? Not just the ones that we uploaded before, but all the ones that we processed independently of Taxodros?

As far as I am concerned, the scope of the project is TaxoDros and only TaxoDros.

myrmoteras commented 4 months ago

Do you mean all the articles that are in Zenodo AND are in Taxodros? Not just the ones that we uploaded before, but all the ones that we processed independently of Taxodros?

As far as I am concerned, the scope of the project is TaxoDros and only TaxoDros.

Yes, I understand, the scope is to get the pdf of articles from taxodros into BLR without adding duplicates in Zenodo. In this case, mainly articles that we have already uploaded to Zenodo.

myrmoteras commented 4 months ago

Existing deposits: change the deposits and create a new version, leave as is or just updated metadata, add taxodros community?

Would you happen to have some personnel to edit metadata records of the existing 180 (or so) TaxoDros associated record and add TaxoDros identifiers? This would make the update process easier to automated and would save me hours of copy-paste work.

Can you define what exactly this person has to add? That means all the publications that are already in Zenodo/BLR and are in the taxodros stack?!

jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

Can you define what exactly this person has to add? That means all the publications that are already in Zenodo/BLR and are in the taxodros stack?!

Thanks for asking. Each of the existing 180 or so TaxoDros records needs a TaxoDros lsid to tie the original TaxoDros record to their derived Zenodo record.

For instance, TaxoDros record associated with https://linker.bio/line:hash://md5/e83039fdbc676f9c9e915e08b0c8c2f1!/L1284-L1291

.TEXT;
aldrich, 1922
.A Aldrich, J.M.,
.J 1922
.S (no title).
.Z Ent. News, 33:317-318.
.K ocr / p 811824
.P Aldrich, 1922.pdf

is associated with id aldrich, 1922 encoded as lsid:

urn:lsid:taxodros.uzh.ch:id:aldrich,%201922

And this id ties the TaxoDros record with their derived Zenodo record. With this, you can do targeted, automated, updates.

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jhpoelen commented 4 months ago

@myrmoteras please feel free to re-open this old review ticket if needed.