add bittube as a new source

mohibo commented 3 years ago

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[x] I checked, but didn't find any duplicates (open OR closed) of this issue in the repo.
[ x] I have read the contribution guidelines given at https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/blob/HEAD/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md.
[x ] This issue contains only one feature request. I will open one issue for every feature I want to request.

Describe the feature you want

i would like support for bittube.tv

Optionally, also describe alternatives you've considered. there are no alternatives

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe it

no ,its no related to a problem

Additional context

How will you/everyone benefit from this feature?

everyone will benefit from this feature because its an alternative of youtube and newpipe would be perfect to download from it and play on the background

fynngodau commented 3 years ago

I've opened the website in my browser and the very first video I'm seeing is: "[…] and […] Discuss The Coronavirus Hoax". Sure, there might be proportionally somewhat fewer conspiracy theories than at Bitchute. But since they are positioning themselves among the lines of Bitchute and Gab

Free speech alternatives such as Gab, Bitchute and Minds and ourselves […]

on their about tab – https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor/pull/325#issuecomment-626801193 might very well apply here.

Yetangitu commented 2 years ago

I've opened the website in my browser and the very first video I'm seeing is: "[…] and […] Discuss The Coronavirus Hoax". Sure, there might be proportionally somewhat fewer conspiracy theories than at Bitchute. But since they are positioning themselves among the lines of Bitchute and Gab

Free speech alternatives such as Gab, Bitchute and Minds and ourselves […]

on their about tab – #325 (comment) might very well apply here.

There are a few things you should realise before knee-jerk-reacting like this when a suggestion is made to add a new service which positions itself as a 'free speech alternative' to Youtube (et al).

The first realisation is that such 'alternative' channels are likely to attract content creators who are banned from YouTube for $reasons. Often that reason is heavily ideologically tainted and as such not something people will objectively agree with. This can include everything from reasoned scientifically sound discourse which happens to go against the desired narrative at Google - e.g. discussions on whether face masks are effective, whether there are effective prophylactics against SARS2 etc - to off-this-planet bat-shit-crazy conspirational madness. You might not agree with most of these messages but... and here comes the kicker:

The second realisation is that free speech is a must exactly for speech you don't agree with. That is why it was codified in the US Constitution, to ensure that even those who did not agree with the current narrative would be able to speak freely. The bounds on speech are set by the law of the land and should emphatically not be set by the whims of whoever has his hands on the transmitter switch, the phone line, the network cable or the distribution platform.

So, as long as BitTube follows the law and removes content which violates it - the law that is, not some speech code - they should be just as welcome an addition to NewPipeExtractor (et al) as any other platform.

Did you notice that Google recently changed its policies which now forbids any criticism of any vaccine - which they dub 'anti-vaccine misinformation'? Maybe you agree that there should be room for such criticism, not all vaccines are equally effective, safe and/or necessary after all? The industry which produces these vaccines has not always been totally above the board either so a total ban on criticism is nothing but a boon to them.

Who knows, a time might come when you want to say something on YouTube which the censor will not allow to pass...

fynngodau commented 2 years ago

As per https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor/pull/325#issuecomment-626801193, platforms which effectively promote conspiracy theories and false information are not "as welcome an additon to NewPipe Extractor […] as any other platform", for the reasons outlined there.

I furthermore fail to see how the blatant misinformation that "approved vaccines cause autism, cancer or infertility, or that the vaccines contain trackers", as per the article you linked, is to be considered "criticism of vaccines" and not "lies about vaccines". Such claims, or claims that vaccines are meant to murder people – a believe that is being spread on Bittube, and displayed on the start page – are not a valuable contribution to any discourse.

Yetangitu commented 2 years ago

You are focusing on a single subject, that of 'vaccine misinformation'. Surely those alternative distribution channels, whether it may be BitTube, BitChute, PeerTube or whateverTube serve more than just this type of video? YouTube is full to the brim of 'misinformation' on all subjects, it overflows with commercial drivel, it has tons of extreme content. Seen in that light YouTube sure is a distribution channel to be shunned yet here we are, discussing this subject in a thread on a repo centred around YouTube.

Realise that YouTube, or rather Google, is getting more censorious. You may be in ideological agreement with the censor at this time but that will most likely change since Google is, first and foremost, a commercial enterprise intent on making money. This will eventually start to be reflected in their decisions on what to censor and what to condone or support. This may happen when there is a change in government or a change in 'zeitgeist', I do not know when but I do know it will happen and most likely sooner rather than later. When that time comes you too will be welcome to use any of the alternative channels - I use a self-hosted PeerTube instance and never did nor will put anything on YouTube, even though I do not think they would ban me just yet.

The 'net is meant to be decentralised, concentrations of power have a detrimental effect on its reliability - both technically as well as intellectually. This is why I want there to be more rather than fewer distribution channels, even if they are used to spread content I do not agree with. It is not my opinion which should be leading here, nor yours, nor the governments, nor whatever political affiliations. Let the law be the limit of what can be said, no more and no less.

Also realise that the New York Times article might refer to the bat-shit-crazy type of vaccine conspiracies but that this is not the only type of 'vaccine criticism' which Google now bans. People have been and are getting banned for citing peer-reviewed papers when those papers happen to fall outside of the desired narrative. That is not the direction the 'net should move to, this scenario has been tried often enough and always has led to failure. Information wants to be free after all.

Lee-Carre commented 2 years ago

In support of the wise insight of @Yetangitu Lewis Rossmann rather nails the problem: A rant about odysee and lbry.

PatrykMis commented 2 years ago

Shame for NewPipe devs for not including this... https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/664

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