HipHopHuman
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3 years ago I was having a couple more thoughts on this recently and I realised that this feature would be pretty interesting in relation to the Aerial Interface because it would introduce an emergent gameplay mechanic; that of being able to remotely quell negative potion effects (if that part of the suggestion is added) and remotely apply potion effects (if that part of the suggestion is added) by feeding the player Deep-Fried Ice Cream via the Aerial Interface.
Having noticed a couple of potion trends in other mods, for example:
- Botania's got the flask system - which holds more sips than regular potion bottles, and some of the flasks offer mixed effects.
- Factory Tech back in 1.12 had the Potion Mixer, which allowed you to combine potion effects into a single bottle.
- Ars Noveau has the Potion Jars, Potion Melder and two different Potion Flasks. You use the Potion Melder to combine two potions together into one. Both of the Flasks hold more than one sip of a potion. One of the Flasks increases the duration of a potion, but reduces it's strength. The other Flask increases the strength of the effect, but reduces the duration.
- Create's potion brewing mechanics
... I thought about how PneumaticCraft could expose similar features through this suggestion, so I'd like to make a few amendments to it and see if you like the idea:
- (Regular) Ice Cream acts just like milk and clears all potion effects.
- (\<Any Single Flavor>) Ice Cream clears all the negative potion effects.
- (\<Any Mixed Flavor>) Ice Cream clears one random negative potion effect.
Following that comes the actual potion effect imbuing mechanic: Combining Ice Cream in liquid form with a brewed Potion in the TPP imbues the ice cream with that potion effect, regardless of the flavor. This changes the effect of the Ice Cream from clearing however many potion effects to instead providing a single potion effect. This would only work on (\<Any Single Flavor>) ice cream.
So, you'd put Bucket of Ice Cream (Chocolate, Clears Negative Effects) + Potion of Strength into the TPP and get a Bucket of Ice Cream (Chocolate, Strength) out. When this is processed into Ice Cream Scoops, they act as Splash Potions of Strength when tossed like a snowball. When processed into Deep-Fried Ice Cream, they provide the player with the Strength effect for a short time and thus can be consumed even when the player's hunger bar is full.
Furthering on that concept, the flavors can then be mixed further to combine potion effects. Mixing (Apple, Clears Negative Effects) and (Melon, Clears Negative Effects) would produce an (Apple Melon, Clears 1 Negative Effect). However, Mixing an (Apple, Strength) with a (Melon, Resistance) would produce an (Apple Melon, Strength + Resistance).
There is one flavor however that is comprised of three flavors, that flavor being Neapolitan. This flavor would be a bit special - as it consists of three flavours, it can hold three active effects. If you for example mixed (Chocolate, Strength) and (Strawberries & Cream, Regeneration + Resistance), you would get a (Neapolitan, Strength + Regeneration + Resistance). Neapolitan, being the most popular and thus ultimate of all Ice Cream flavours, would need to be balanced somehow, and I suggest giving it the same cooldown mechanic as what the Bandage item has, but longer, and it would just be ignored by the Aerial Interface.
Lastly, the introduction of a new food mode to the Aerial Interface w/ a Dispenser Upgrade: Gluttony Mode. Right now it has "Frugal", "Greedy" and "Smart", all of which will only feed the player when the player's hunger bar is partially empty. In contrast, "Gluttony" mode will attempt to feed the player as often as possible, as long as the item it is feeding the player is a valid item that the player is allowed to eat with a full Hunger bar, such as Enchanted Golden Apples or Deep-Fried Ice Cream.
This Gluttony Mode would also serve as the balance requirement for providing the player with a way to empower themselves even more than what PNC currently provides - in order to facilitate remotely removing negative potion effects and remotely applying new ones - they will have to create a big enough infrastruscture to keep up with the demand of the Aerial Interface in Gluttony Mode. If the infrastructure is insufficient to keep up, they would exhaust all their Ice Cream stock very quickly, within a matter of seconds. It could also have a marginally increased air cost per tick to keep the Aerial Interface running when in this mode.
Any thoughts?
desht
EDIT: Here's a chart I made showcasing how this all fits: https://tinyurl.com/tk7dwwnb
Apologies for the title saying "Tiny" - it started out tiny, sure, but then my brain gears kept spinning and I ended up fleshing the heck out of this.
This is an idea for some new foods that fit perfectly into PNC's mechanics, if you ever plan on adding more food that is. This may be feature creep though, but I'll let you decide. I'm basically just submitting ideas as I get them 😅
The main take-away of this suggestion is not just more food, but also giving a little more purpose to the Fluid Mixer.
It's all to do with Deep Fried Ice Cream (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_ice_cream)
A basic idea for how it would be crafted:
The Bucket of Ice Cream can be consumed, but does not stack. Maybe it could act like milk, and remove effects, but only the negative ones.
There could perhaps be some different flavors as well. Maybe some could saturate better than others, or give a few seconds of effects, or stave off Insomnia for a day. Maybe they can have the same negative effect removal as the bucket, but only remove 1 at a time? The flavors could be made in the TPP:
These would all convert to Deep Fried Ice Cream of the same flavor, as well.
Though, I guess having this work in the TPP may need a fluid implementation which I know you're trying to avoid. Hmm... Maybe instead of buckets of ice cream it comes out as regular Ice Cream Scoops and instead of using the TPP for flavor mixing you use the Pressure Chamber instead? Not sure... It would just be one fluid, as the flavor could be a tag/nbt
Though, if they were implemented as a fluid, that would give the Fluid Mixer some more utility in making some extra flavors, like so:
Maybe the Bucket of Ice Cream could also be put in a crafting grid, which yields 4 Ice Cream Scoops. These would act like snowballs, in that the player can throw them (especially with the Pneumatic Chestplate's Item Launcher mechanic). They could do a little more damage than regular snowballs, OR instead of doing more damage, they do no damage at all and act like mini-splash potions for the effects they might have (if you go with that idea).
If you like the snowball idea, then you may want to change the recipe from this:
To this:
If you want to really flesh this idea out, you could introduce a Nitrogen liquid. In real-life, Nitrogen is actually extracted from liquified air (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_nitrogen):
So that would change the recipe for making Ice Cream into something a little different, but makes it more of a puzzle. Instead of:
It'd be:
OR
THEN
Perhaps you could also do the funny and make it so that Ice Cream (Regular) that has just been freshly produced has a timer on it, and needs to sit at a temperature sufficient enough for the Nitrogen to boil away (I think this is >77k, can't remember) until that timer ends. If the player consumes the Ice Cream before this, insta death :D
Another interesting timer-related idea is having the ice cream melt over time (which in practice just makes the items disappear), unless stored in a cooled heat frame. Perhaps there could be a puzzle in Heat Frame cooling the Aerial Interface to prevent this from happening when it's in your inventory.
Perhaps you could add a challenge to this via Amadron, Players could automate all the different flavors of Deep Fried Ice cream and list them on Amadron, then you could have a mechanic where some "customers" occasionally buy a random ice cream from the player (even in SSP worlds) for Emeralds, so the player would have incentive to automate all of the flavors to maximize on the buy potential.
Perhaps you could also be a little zany, and add some new decorative blocks, where 4 Ice Cream Scoops could be crafted in a 2x2 pattern to make 1 block of Ice Cream. It'd have the same texture as snow, but a different color depending on the NBT of the flavor it was crafted with. These could then be crafted into Bricks, which could themselves be crafted into Staircases and Slabs.
If everything in this suggestion were to be implemented (even the zany stuff), it'd add the following items/fluids (based on the Vortex Tube, for the decorative blocks, I'm assuming it is possible to change the color of a rendered block via checking NBT, but it may be worth having the decorative blocks be static to avoid performance issues where these are used heavily in builds):
And the crafting recipes would look like this:
Of course, everywhere I mention "Bucket", I mean a bucket's worth - it being in an actual bucket is not important, the recipes could work with PNC Tanks of Ice Cream as well.
And no, you don't need to worry about adding in-world versions of these fluids. That makes no sense as the Ice Cream would just melt and the liquified air would just become regular air. Although, if you wanted to add such a thing, you could make the Nitrogen an in-world fluid, which could be used as a cold heat source for the TPP / Heat Frame / Thermostatic Compressor / etc. It could turn into a single snow layer (like how lava cools to obsidian)
I realize that this may seem like a lot of microcrafting, but I personally enjoy the complexity of automation puzzles like this one, for me, the more steps and the more different those steps are, the better. Makes me prouder of what I've built when it's a challenge.