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Multiple Spoken Languages #6588

Closed five1 closed 2 years ago

five1 commented 2 years ago

Before submitting a new icon request, please confirm the following:

What would you use this icon for?

Signify that an audio program contains multiple spoken languages. There is an existing icon for multiple languages/translations, however I feel that it is too written language centric. I would like to see an icon produced that can be used to show multiple spoken languages.

Give us an example of what this icon might look like.

The attached icon is similar to the icon for translate, but uses speech bubbles to signify speech. ic_mixed_language_32dp

mririgoyen commented 2 years ago

We can't fit two chat bubbles in a single icon like your suggestion. The best we might be able to do is encapsulate the existing translate icon into a chat bubble of some kind, though it may still be tricky due to the complexity of the icon.

Circeus commented 2 years ago

Alternatively, can a chat bubble be fitted as a pseudo-modifier in the corner?

five1 commented 2 years ago

We can't fit two chat bubbles in a single icon like your suggestion. The best we might be able to do is encapsulate the existing translate icon into a chat bubble of some kind, though it may still be tricky due to the complexity of the icon.

If you encapsulate the existing translate icon into a chat bubble then it could be good to have two or more points (tails) to indicate multiple voices, but I understand the complexities of acheiving that. We would not be trying to signify a conversation. A conversation with each party speaking a different language would not make much sense. However we want to convey a spoken message containing multiple languages. One language might be a trade language, while the other language is the local language spoken by the inhabitants of a region.

The material design chat bubbles with square corners appear to denote text chat, whereas the round chat bubbles denote verbal chat. We would want to denote verbal chat in this case.

five1 commented 2 years ago

Alternatively, can a chat bubble be fitted as a pseudo-modifier in the corner?

Possibly, however the icon is not meant to convey oral translation, which would be my immediate interpretation of such an icon.

andrejsharapov commented 2 years ago

What you want may look like this, but you must understand that the characters are almost invisible

image

mririgoyen commented 2 years ago

Yeah, that won't work in that form. We'll need to play around with some ideas to get a few options that might work.

mririgoyen commented 2 years ago

This breaks some rules, but is much more legible.

image translate-variant.svg.zip

five1 commented 2 years ago

Thanks @goyney, I think that will work.

andrejsharapov commented 2 years ago

@goyney, It seems to me that it is possible to replace the hieroglyph with a simpler one, so as not to violate the principle of the library. 🤔

mririgoyen commented 2 years ago

@goyney, It seems to me that it is possible to replace the hieroglyph with a simpler one, so as not to violate the principle of the library. 🤔

It's the one that's used in the other translate icons, so it might be better to retain consistency.

five1 commented 2 years ago

@goyney, It seems to me that it is possible to replace the hieroglyph with a simpler one, so as not to violate the principle of the library. 🤔

The hieroglyph is the Chinese character for "language". As far as Chinese characters are concerned, I think this hieroglyph is one of the simplest. In terms of meaning "" (spoken language) might be more appropriate, however it is more complicated and is not consistent with other icons. Note that I do not speak or read Chinese, so I could be wrong in my understanding of Chinese characters and their meaning. My source was Google Translate.

mririgoyen commented 2 years ago

translate-variant