Collection was modified Exception when loading Rules Page

[andyvandesand]

Creating a rule throws the following exception:

warn: Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Server.Circuits.RemoteRenderer[100] Unhandled exception rendering component: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute. System.InvalidOperationException: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute. at System.Collections.Generic.List1.Enumerator.MoveNext() at OpenBudgeteer.Blazor.Pages.Rules.BuildRenderTree(RenderTreeBuilder __builder) in /src/OpenBudgeteer.Blazor/Pages/Rules.razor:line 106 at Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Rendering.ComponentState.RenderIntoBatch(RenderBatchBuilder batchBuilder, RenderFragment renderFragment, Exception& renderFragmentException) fail: Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Server.Circuits.CircuitHost[111] Unhandled exception in circuit 'FsnA1rF9kTaML5BqLK2RfDbStpQenWAtKE9M7pdauaI'. System.InvalidOperationException: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute. at System.Collections.Generic.List1.Enumerator.MoveNext() at OpenBudgeteer.Blazor.Pages.Rules.BuildRenderTree(RenderTreeBuilder __builder) in /src/OpenBudgeteer.Blazor/Pages/Rules.razor:line 106 at Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Rendering.ComponentState.RenderIntoBatch(RenderBatchBuilder batchBuilder, RenderFragment renderFragment, Exception& renderFragmentException)

This doesn't happen every time, but very frequently. The rule is still being created. I have not managed to work out any pattern to when it works and when it doesn't. All the rules I'm creating are using priority 0, the same name as the target bucket, and mapping rule "memo" "contains".

[TheAxelander]

Thanks for submitting. I will try to reproduce it.

Could it be possible that you use Edit all and Create Rule at the same time?

From the error message it looks like that something is iterating through all rules and in between one or more rules are changed, which should not happen.

[andyvandesand]

Thanks for the quick reply!

No, I’m just adding a whole lot of rules in – haven’t used “edit all” at all so far. Sometimes I can add 3 rules in a row, and then sometimes it fails for every rule I add 3 times in a row, there doesn’t seem to be much logic to it. I know, the best problems to solve…

From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 6:11 PM To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>; Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165)

Thanks for submitting. I will try to reproduce it.

Could it be possible that you use Edit all and Create Rule at the same time?

From the error message it looks like that something is iterating through all rules and in between one or more rules are changed, which should not happen.

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[andyvandesand]

Also no difference on whether there’s 1 or 2 mapping rules – still sometimes fails and sometimes doesn’t.

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Thanks for submitting. I will try to reproduce it.

Could it be possible that you use Edit all and Create Rule at the same time?

From the error message it looks like that something is iterating through all rules and in between one or more rules are changed, which should not happen.

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[TheAxelander]

Can you share which database you use (Sqlite or MYSql)?

[andyvandesand]

11.0.2-MariaDB-1:11.0.2+maria~ubu2204

From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 6:28 PM To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>; Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165)

Can you share which database you use (Sqlite or MYSql)?

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[TheAxelander]

Thanks, I try to dig in several directions to get any idea what could be the root cause here.

Do you access the site directly (e.g. 192.168.178.123:8080) or using a domain (bucket.example.com) in combination with a reverse proxy (like Traefik or Nginx Proxy Manager)?

[andyvandesand]

I’m using Traefik on portainer. Mariadb is on host network, openbudgeteer is forwarded.

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Thanks, I try to dig in several directions to get any idea what could be the root cause here.

Do you access the site directly (e.g. 192.168.178.123:8080) or using a domain (bucket.example.com) in combination with a reverse proxy (like Traefik or Nginx Proxy Manager)?

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[TheAxelander]

Alright. Can you check if WebSockets support is activated for OpenBudgeteer. I experienced some issues in the past if this was not active.

[andyvandesand]

Sorry how do I do that?  -------- Original message --------From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Date: 26/8/23 19:01 (GMT+08:00) To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>, Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165) Alright. Can you check if WebSockets support is activated for OpenBudgeteer. I experienced some issues in the past if this was not active.

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[TheAxelander]

I'm not completely familiar with Traefik as I'm using Nginx Proxy Manager, on some sites it says it works automatically, others provide some special settings.

Just to see if this is really the root cause, I would propose that you try to access the site directly via IP and see if the errors still pop up. If not then it's most probably an issue within Traefik.

[andyvandesand]

Oh sorry you meant in traefik, gotcha. Will try.  -------- Original message --------From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Date: 26/8/23 19:13 (GMT+08:00) To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>, Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165) I'm not completely familiar with Traefik as I'm using Nginx Proxy Manager, on some sites it says it works automatically, others provide some special settings. Just to see if this is really the root cause, I would propose that you try to access the site directly via IP and see if the errors still pop up. If not then it's most probably an issue within Traefik.

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[andyvandesand]

Nah sorry, just tried directly without traefik, same issue.

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I'm not completely familiar with Traefik as I'm using Nginx Proxy Manager, on some sites it says it works automatically, others provide some special settings.

Just to see if this is really the root cause, I would propose that you try to access the site directly via IP and see if the errors still pop up. If not then it's most probably an issue within Traefik.

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[TheAxelander]

Damn, ok. I still need to play around, couldn't reproduce it so far...

[andyvandesand]

Sorry I haven’t done much .net stuff in docker, more than happy to debug if I can, but can you attach to an instance in a container? I assume you can somehow?

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Damn, ok. I still need to play around, couldn't reproduce it so far...

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[TheAxelander]

To be honest even with debugging I see a challenge in identifying the issue based on the error message. Normally it's quite easy to reproduce exceptions, as they are either based on a certain data constellation or on actions done on the Web interface.

But here it just pops up occasionally and the issue is most probably due to overlapping traffic between Browser and Server (Container). Not easy to trace such things.

[andyvandesand]

Yeah I understand. But to give you an idea of scale, I’m entering about 200 rules here and getting the error probably for 7 out of 10 entries. It just gives me the generic “An error has occurred. This application may no longer respond until reloaded. http://budget.vds.home/ Reload” and won’t do anything until I refresh. I assume that’s just the generic error handler.

Practically it’s no big deal at all, I just hit F5 and can continue with the next entry, but yeah something is playing up.

I just noticed that some buckets don’t seem to be throwing up exceptions as frequently as others. If you’re interested, here’s my list of buckets:

BucketGroupId Name Position

2 Dining, Bars & Cafes 13

3 Entertainment 12

4 Groceries 11

5 Shopping 10

6 Finance 9

7 Gifts & Donations 8

8 Travel 7

9 Health 6

10 House 5

11 Kids 4

12 Transport 3

13 Utilities 2

14 Work 1

BucketId Name BucketGroupId ValidFrom IsInactive IsInactiveFrom ColorCode

1 Income 0 1990-01-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 00:00:00.000000 NULL

2 Transfer 0 1990-01-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 00:00:00.000000 NULL

3 Union 14 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

4 LOL Insurance 14 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

5 Work - Expenses 14 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

6 Dry Cleaning 14 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

7 Electricity 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

8 Gas 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

9 Water 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

10 Internet 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

11 Mobile 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

12 Utilities - Other 13 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

13 Parking 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

14 Registration 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

15 Fuel 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

16 Car - Service 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

17 Transport - Other 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

18 Fines 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

19 Public Transport 12 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

20 Music Lessons 11 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

21 Kids - Sports 11 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

22 WPS 11 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

23 SCBC 11 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

24 Rates 10 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

25 Upkeep 10 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

26 GP 9 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

27 Dentist 9 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

28 Pharmacies 9 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

29 Health - Other 9 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

30 Tithe 7 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

31 Church Donations 7 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

32 Missions 7 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

33 Savings 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

34 Tax Return 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

35 Health Insurance 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

36 Interest 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

37 Cashout 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

38 Investment 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

39 Mortgage 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

40 Home Insurance 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

41 Car Insurance 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

42 Fees 6 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

43 Clothes 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

44 Shopping - Home 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

45 Shopping - Other 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

47 Personal Care 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

48 Presents 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

49 Woolworths 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

50 Coles 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

51 Aldi 5 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

52 Fruit & Veg 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

53 Alcohol 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

54 Costco 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

55 Groceries - Other 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

56 Dog 4 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

57 Family Activities 3 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

58 Hobbies 3 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

59 Entertainment - Sports 3 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

60 Online Services 3 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

61 Takeout 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

62 Coffee 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

63 Paradox 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

64 Lunch 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

65 Restaurants 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

66 Bars 2 2023-08-01 00:00:00.000000 0 9999-12-31 23:59:59.999999 Transparent

From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 8:04 PM To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>; Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165)

To be honest even with debugging I see a challenge in identifying the issue based on the error message. Normally it's quite easy to reproduce exceptions, as they are either based on a certain data constellation or on actions done on the Web interface.

But here it just pops up occasionally and the issue is most probably due to overlapping traffic between Browser and Server (Container). Not easy to trace such things.

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[TheAxelander]

Thanks for sharing. This “An error has occurred. This application may no longer respond [..]” at the bottom is at the end an unhandled exception and as you said reloading helps.

But if I understood correctly the data have been saved, it's just the Web Site rendering that crashes...

[andyvandesand]

Yep that’s correct.

From: Alexander Preibisch @.> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 8:36 PM To: TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer @.> Cc: andyvandesand @.>; Author @.> Subject: Re: [TheAxelander/OpenBudgeteer] Exception when adding rules (Issue #165)

Thanks for sharing. This “An error has occurred. This application may no longer respond [..]” at the bottom is at the end an unhandled exception and as you said reloading helps.

But if I understood correctly the data have been saved, it's just the Web Site rendering that crashes...

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[andyvandesand]

I had a feeling for a while that it might have been my naming of buckets, I had a few with the same names in separate bucket groups, resulting in identical items in the drop down. But I think I was wrong.

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Thanks for sharing. This “An error has occurred. This application may no longer respond [..]” at the bottom is at the end an unhandled exception and as you said reloading helps.

But if I understood correctly the data have been saved, it's just the Web Site rendering that crashes...

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[TheAxelander]

It happened now also on my side, but already on opening the Rules Page. Issue still exists on pre-release. Database mysql

warn: Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Server.Circuits.RemoteRenderer[100]
      Unhandled exception rendering component: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.
      System.InvalidOperationException: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.
         at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Enumerator.MoveNextRare()
         at OpenBudgeteer.Blazor.Pages.Rules.BuildRenderTree(RenderTreeBuilder __builder) in /src/OpenBudgeteer.Blazor/Pages/Rules.razor:line 104
         at Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Rendering.ComponentState.RendertoBatch(RenderBatchBuilder batchBuilder, RenderFragment renderFragment, Exception& renderFragmentException)
fail: Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Server.Circuits.CircuitHost[111]
      Unhandled exception in circuit '6-Mhq8_7jzyF9CUTp34QkCaUWnOi5GyY5YfIvmFPFCY'.
      System.InvalidOperationException: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.
         at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Enumerator.MoveNextRare()
         at OpenBudgeteer.Blazor.Pages.Rules.BuildRenderTree(RenderTreeBuilder __builder) in /src/OpenBudgeteer.Blazor/Pages/Rules.razor:line 104
         at Microsoft.AspNetCore.Components.Rendering.ComponentState.RendertoBatch(RenderBatchBuilder batchBuilder, RenderFragment renderFragment, Exception& renderFragmentException)

[TheAxelander]

Issue not really reproducible. I will do a code review to see if I can rewrite the coding to get the rules in a hopefully safe way

[andyvandesand]

[uhm ooops... sorry for the duplicate. completely forgot this is what it was!!]

[TheAxelander]

I think I found the root cause, a potential fix is now available on pre-release, I will keep this open for further tracking.

[TheAxelander]

Issue still existing in 1.7

[TheAxelander]

Potential fix implemented in 1.7.1