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Add AS_920_923 Japanese plan #36

Closed tooruuetani closed 2 years ago

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

Summary

Add Japanese specific plan for AS923. Using from 920.6MHz to 923.4MHz with LBT.

Changes

Currently AS920-923 with LBT is incorrect in Japan. Because the Japanese law ARIB-STD-T108 need that LBT scan time is below:

So we would like to use AS920-923 with 5msec scan time. And also we would like to use three patterns as below:

The last plan is for 16ch gateway, is only used with second plan.

about ARIB-STD-T108

The low power regulations is from page 33. The frequencies for 20mW or less are described from page 50.

see attached table1 and table2

Notes for Reviewers

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tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

[Uploading 5-STD-T108v1_3-E1.pdf…]()

johanstokking commented 3 years ago

Thanks a lot @tooruuetani.

So you need to be able to configure per-sub-band (frequency) scan times? How does Kerlink gateways configure this?

And also we would like to use three patterns as below:

  • 920.6MHz-921.2MHz(4ch) and 922.8MHz-923.4MHz(4ch)
  • 922.0MHz-923.4MHz(8ch)
  • 920.6MHz-922.0MHz(8ch)

Can you elaborate a bit on this? Is this specific to your use case?

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

Yes, we need to be able to configure per-sub-band (frequency) scan times. For example, Kerlink iStation with cpf describes like below:

"lbt_cfg": {
    "enable": true,
    "rssi_target": -80,
    "chan_cfg": [
        { "freq_hz": 920600000, "scan_time_us": 5000 },
        { "freq_hz": 920800000, "scan_time_us": 5000 },
        { "freq_hz": 921000000, "scan_time_us": 5000 },
        { "freq_hz": 921200000, "scan_time_us": 5000 },
        { "freq_hz": 922800000, "scan_time_us": 128 },
        { "freq_hz": 923000000, "scan_time_us": 128 },
        { "freq_hz": 923200000, "scan_time_us": 128 },
        { "freq_hz": 923400000, "scan_time_us": 128 }
    ]
}

Can you elaborate a bit on this? Is this specific to your use case?

We think that this is not only our case. Because 920.6MHz-923.4MHz is used by a gateway which can transmit at 250mW or less. (note) Please see attached PDF page 7 "Land Mobile Station".

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

Japanese frequency plans are separated by 4 plans. This PR is targeted for 920.6MHz-923.4MHz at 20mW. Please see Table3-18 and Table3-8. We mainly use these frequencies at 20mW or less, sometimes use at 250mW or less from a gateway.

table3-8

(remarks) We made a request for 250mW, then issue #7 was re-opened.

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

Sorry, I made a mistake. When using LBT 5msec scan time, dwell time limitation is unnecessary. So I removed some plans using dwell time.

johanstokking commented 3 years ago

OK, I need to keep this one open for now. We are working on some refactoring regarding (gateway) frequency plans, that also affects >8 channel plans and generating gateway configuration files (with, for example, LBT per sub-band).

@adriansmares please reference this issue in the umbrella

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

@johanstokking I appreciate for comment.

Will you merge this PR for the time being? Because TTSC does not have correct frequency plans for Japan, we can't proceed the migration to TTSC.

johanstokking commented 3 years ago

@tooruuetani yes on the short term, we accept fixes for https://github.com/TheThingsNetwork/lorawan-frequency-plans/blob/f77e7cc095ca01d173bdae0b2f5d2277e69c7d53/frequency-plans.yml#L156-L162.

tooruuetani commented 3 years ago

Thanks. We will wait for merging.

tooruuetani commented 2 years ago

How is the progress ? Will this PR be merged by Q1?

johanstokking commented 2 years ago

@adriansmares do we have any blockers on our side?

adriansmares commented 2 years ago

This is no longer blocked by The Things Stack, but I do have some concerns about this PR:

These are permanent frequency plans - once they are released, gateways / end devices may use them forever and we cannot remove / rename them.

tooruuetani commented 2 years ago

@adriansmares Thank you. I agree with your naming concerns. But I don't have a good solution for this.

If I will choose your IDs idea, what should I do next ? (note) I will edit names and descriptions.

adriansmares commented 2 years ago

I think that after we clarify the IDs/names/descriptions this is good to be reviewed and merged.

tooruuetani commented 2 years ago

@johanstokking OK, I had an misunderstanding. I will modify band-id in the files.

tooruuetani commented 2 years ago

OK. I see.