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Change text in the Recipient Type Graph #43

Closed morchickit closed 5 years ago

morchickit commented 5 years ago

I was thinking that Unknown to organisations type with no identifiers might be vague. Maybe we can change it to - No organisational ID? That would be more accurate.

Thoughts?

drkane commented 5 years ago

I think that's a good idea - I had been thinking the same thing.

morchickit commented 5 years ago

The only thing is that Katherine pointed out is that St Guy's and St. Thomas have org id, but the insights tool doesn't recognise them as NHS... So either we will open an issue to identify prefix, or we will change the text to Unmatched.

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I think that's a good idea - I had been thinking the same thing.

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drkane commented 5 years ago

Here's the current state of this:

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I think the wording still needs some thinking about, not sure of the best ways to describe things. But all non-360G identifiers are now included in the chart. Where they are a common one I display the name of the type of organisation, where it's an unknown identifier I just display the ID (this isn't ideal but there's no easy way of working out what an identifier should be called).

drkane commented 5 years ago

In general we need to make this section clearer to users. We can't say no org ID. We might want to say - "no matched org id" and a tooltip explaining that this means:

1. Org-ID that is not charity or company number
2. Organisations that are not in the UK
3. Unregistered groups
4. The publisher didn't supply and org-id.

From @morchickit on issue #76.

I think the text now needs to explain 3. and 4. from this list.

drkane commented 5 years ago

@KDuerden - this should now work for SCVO identifiers (see eg).

I now say that anything with less than 2 dashes in counts as an unknown identifier, rather than just looking for those that start with 360G-. This probably needs to be a bit more robust.

Would be good to get your thoughts on the current wording.

KDuerden commented 5 years ago

Thanks for sharing! For SCVO - and I've tested other scottish funder data - how is the split between registered charity and registered (scottish) worked out? Eg Corra's data is 14/696 GB-CHC/GB-SC prefixes but shows as follows.

For wording, what about using the concept of 'unrecognised' Could be 'organisation identifier unrecognised' or 'Identifier not recognised'

drkane commented 5 years ago

For SCVO - and I've tested other scottish funder data - how is the split between registered charity and registered (scottish) worked out? Eg Corra's data is 14/696 GB-CHC/GB-SC prefixes but shows as follows.

good point. I was being inconsistent depending on how the identifiers were being processed (any charities were being labelled as "Registered Charity" at the import stage, even if they were Scottish). I've now made it more consistent so it looks better: http://insightsbeta.findthatcharity.uk/file/65eee3e03dbbad74be945714a0b9853b

morchickit commented 5 years ago

I think that if we are consistent like this then we need to do the following:

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For SCVO - and I've tested other scottish funder data - how is the split between registered charity and registered (scottish) worked out? Eg Corra's data is 14/696 GB-CHC/GB-SC prefixes but shows as follows http://insightsbeta.findthatcharity.uk/file/65eee3e03dbbad74be945714a0b9853b .

good point. I was being inconsistent depending on how the identifiers were being processed (any charities were being labelled as "Registered Charity" at the import stage, even if they were Scottish). I've now made it more consistent so it looks better: http://insightsbeta.findthatcharity.uk/file/65eee3e03dbbad74be945714a0b9853b

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drkane commented 5 years ago

For wording, what about using the concept of 'unrecognised' Could be 'organisation identifier unrecognised' or 'Identifier not recognised'

Good idea - have done that.

KDuerden commented 5 years ago

The signposting is a bit wordy now and I think there is a case for 'show don't tell' here. Is there any scope for this guidance to be below the chart, so it doesn't get in the way of the visual impact?

Organisation type is based on official organisation identifiers, such as registered charity or company numbers, found in the data. "Identifier not recognised" means either that the organisation does not have an official identifier, for example because it is an unregistered community group, or the publisher has not included official identifiers in the data.

drkane commented 5 years ago

That wording sounds good - have implemented. The "Identifier not recognised" part only shows up if they are present in the chart.

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