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Grants without recipient organisations - for listing groups of individual grants #18

Closed prbass closed 1 year ago

prbass commented 10 years ago

Feature request from Paul Hamlyn Foundation - they want to be able to include information about grants they have made but where the individual recipients are not disclosed for data protection reasons etc.

These are the example rows - won't include them in the files I upload for now, but they are in the published file at: http://www.phf.org.uk/news.asp?id=2237

Recipient Org: Name Classification: Grant Programme Classification: Grant Fund Title Currency Total Amount awarded
Awards to eight individuals/organisation through Breakthrough Fund Arts Breakthrough Fund 2013 Breakthrough Fund 2013 GBP 1811000.00
Awards to Individual Composers Arts Awards for Artists 2013 Awards for Composers - to three composers GBP 150000.00
Awards to Individual Visual Artists Arts Awards for Artists 2013 Awards for Visual Artists - to five individuals GBP 250000.00
practicalparticipation commented 9 years ago

To be addressed in documentation. We could consider a suggested organisation ID for anonymous grant data.

timgdavies commented 8 years ago

The issue of being able to explicitly identify grants to individuals has also come up as a result of looking at SORP guidance, where a charity may wish to report on the breakdown of:

At the moment the CSV and JSON models explicitly refer to Recipient Organisation, and not just to Recipient, so saying that 'individuals' could just be put in the Organisation section would be problematic.

There are also data protection issues with respect to individuals (as noted in the original comment), such that the standard may want to discourage publishing individuals details.

Proposal

In addition:

caprenter commented 8 years ago

We should be aware the pull https://github.com/ThreeSixtyGiving/standard/pull/147 made recipient orgs required. This make sense for the vast majority of grants (we think) and leads to a better user experience around validation.

We do need to take this case into account tho

mlenczner commented 8 years ago

Already our federal arts funder is publishing grants made to both orgs and individuals. They display different info for each in the name of personal privacy.

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We should be aware the pull #147 https://github.com/ThreeSixtyGiving/standard/pull/147 made recipient orgs required. This make sense for the vast majority of grants (we think) and leads to a better user experience around validation.

We do need to take this case into account tho

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caprenter commented 8 years ago

Just a note that current documentation does tell us how to deal with this situation: http://www.threesixtygiving.org/standard/identifiers/#toc-organisation-identifier

Is the proposal for grantToIndividual still wanted?

stevieflow commented 7 years ago

@timgdavies are you thinking grantToIndividual is still something to pursue in the schema?

Elsewhere, we have a couple of documentation pieces that talk about this - there is a need to rationalise

But first of all then we just clarify grantToIndividual

timgdavies commented 7 years ago

I think grantToIndividuals still has value as both a substantive field for analysis (supporting SORP reporting), and to assist us in providing more privacy-protecting tools (we can warn when there are grantsToIndividuals in a dataset, and double-confirm during data quality tool process whether the user has properly removed any information they should have kept out of the data.

stevieflow commented 7 years ago

Ok thanks @timgdavies

@morchickit did you plan some wider discussion on this in the forum?

mlenczner commented 7 years ago

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Tim Davies notifications@github.com wrote:

I think grantToIndividuals still has value as both a substantive field for analysis

+1

Several of our partners are already publish grants to individuals. Please feel free to ask us directly if you have use cases for which you want feedback.

Mike

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BobHarper1 commented 7 years ago

Just flagging a comment from @jacklord on https://github.com/OpenDataServices/social-finance-data-spec/issues/13#issuecomment-338030548 provides a potential solution in having a recipient field with a oneOf for either recipientOrganization (as it currently is) or recipientIndividual (a new schema).

stevieflow commented 6 years ago

Ive removing this from the version 1 project

mariongalley commented 1 year ago

I think this is fixed by the ability to declare grants to individuals in the 360Giving Data Standard #339

Happy to close @KDuerden ?