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make plugin library easier explorable #2875

Open pmario opened 7 years ago

pmario commented 7 years ago

triggered by: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2873#issuecomment-304652961 this issue is created to explore the idea

Good line of thought @pmario but I worry that ""tiddlywiki plugin"" might be confused for the category of ""all"" tiddlywiki plugins... Saying that a file is a "tiddlywiki plugin" would be particularly ambiguous.

There are alternative ways of describing things that do conform to established terms: "included the empty edition", for example is unambiguous and descriptive, albeit doesn't trip off the tongue. The acronym "ITEE" might work? Or "TWEEP" for "TiddlyWiki empty edition plugin". Or simplified to "this thing should be in the empty edition".

Relatedly, I think it would be desirable for tw.com to have a "big green download button" in the sidebar, with a dropdown that makes it explicit that the default is the "empty edition", and provides options for the other editions present on tw.com.

If we did come up with a term, we could use it as a tag for the tiddlers sent over by the plugin library, and then the "Get Plugins" modal could include a badge for plugins that are included in the empty edition, and a button to filter by that tag.

and pmario

We are a bit OT now, I think, we should create a new issue, to track this idea. I'm very much in favor of having some plugin-categories eg: "Import tools", "Developer Tools", "Edit helpers" (imo OP belongs here), ... We have 33 plugins at the moment, and only a view of them are useful for newbees. So it's hard to know, what to try out.

pmario commented 7 years ago

May be empty.html should get an improved GettingStarted. So there may be deeplinks to the ControlPanel - Plugins tab. So new users can find them more easily. ....

Also a link to the existing editions http://tiddlywiki.com/#Editions and http://tiddlywiki.com/#Community tiddlers may be an option, to improve discoverability.

TiddlyTweeter commented 7 years ago

Anything that will help users get access to Plugins in an organised way I think be good for helping take-up by new users.

I think there is also a case for thinking through the tags that best categorise plugins (not just "official" ones). If it could be consistent--and maybe even be a required default when making a plugin to assign at least one from a "recommended" list--it would, I think make discovery mechanisms like Erwans Community Search &, longer term, Twederation much more effective.

TiddlyTweeter commented 7 years ago

It is very interesting whether end-users who are not tech minded are interested in what TiddlyWiki can do, in principle. I think they are much more interested in seeing "editions" (i.e. specific applications) at work, in fact.

danielo515 commented 7 years ago

I think they are much more interested in seeing "editions" (i.e. specific applications) at work, in fact.

The first thing you think when start using tiddlywiki: This is awesome! how many possibilities! I have to do something with it, but... what?

tobibeer commented 6 years ago

The first thing that comes to mind is making search actually work in both the listing of installed plugins as well as the library modal.