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Glyph of छ in consonant clusters in Sanskrit font #32

Open sridatta1 opened 2 years ago

sridatta1 commented 2 years ago

The ligature involving ch as in च्छ्ल, छ्व the vertical stem is removed and upper portion of the conjunct is touching the headstroke image

I haven't seen similar design in other fonts image image

Design in Sanskrit2003 font image

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Some fonts also remove the stems in छ्य or use it as half forms ( as in Noto fonts) which also looks incorrect to me, I haven't seen them in any printed texts or Sanskrit2003 font image From https://archive.org/details/SanskritAlphabetsPrimerVenkataramaSastriS/page/n15/mode/1up?view=theater, this book also has useful examples for Sanskrit Conjuncts

tiroj commented 2 years ago

This is by design. I think it is something that can be traced back to Linotype Devanagari, and hence perhaps to some older foundry types? My approach in the Tiro font is that the form without the connecting stem becomes the half-form; te vertically compressed form that merges into the headstroke is used when there is a subscript form (thinking about that in the context of Linotype Devanagari, perhaps that design originated in newspaper use?).

sridatta1 commented 2 years ago

Would be interesting to the origin in older type foundries or if any other fonts have this design. On this query, checked in Nirnaya Sagar press books, didn't see this form. Screenshot_20220724-231334__01 So perhaps traced to other type foundries

tiroj commented 2 years ago

Considering changing this in Sanskrit font—and possibly in Marathi—but retaining in Hindi font. Reasoning is that the Hindi generally favours more vertically compressed or horizontal forms.

sridatta1 commented 1 year ago

I checked in the new Linotype Devanagari font here https://www.myfonts.com/collections/linotype-devanagari-font-monotype-imaging The vertically compressed forms with the line removed for छ्व च्छ्व are not found image Don't know about the original designs for this typeface

tiroj commented 1 year ago

New forms for the Sanskrit and Marathi fonts, to be implemented in next update.

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tiroj commented 1 year ago

Now testable with v160beta.yml build path.

sridatta1 commented 1 year ago

Will the current glyph of छ्य ( and the clusters ending with it) be retained in the Sanskrit font?

tiroj commented 1 year ago

Yes. I think the form of छ disconnected from the headline reads more readily as a half-form.