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T9 artifact 160k hp #17

Closed lstawowy closed 7 years ago

lstawowy commented 7 years ago

image image Those two items are similiar but i think that Item 7 probably has one additional 0. I know that this item 7 doesnt have additional damage but still 10x more hp is a bit too much in my opinion maybe 2x/3x ok but with items like this obtaining such items might be crucial for for example beating next raid.

Meissner-Effect commented 7 years ago

The source code specifically uses the "TankMaxHP" attribute instead of "MaxHP" for Tier 9 Warrior Artifact Items 5, 6 and 7 making it very unlikely to be due to an additional zero (Note that only Item 7 is a global drop; Items 5 and 6 are currently only in the source code). Here are the 3 new Artifact Tank Items at WAIR 0 (53.5k, not >160k HP):

tank2 tank1 tank3

Yes, these items do have a lot of Max HP, although I'm not sure these HP items will break the game as they will not allow players to get higher farm levels, complete raids faster, or farm gold/XP faster. And even with 4 of these items on one raider with three bulwarks, the final Tier 9 Boss still killed my raider in a couple of hits without good priest support or boss damage reduction (preventing enrage buff, etc) when I was testing builds (see #4). As it sounds like the next two raids are going to be much more difficult than the Arcane Manufactory Bosses, if four of these items on one raider did not seem overpowered for the first of the three new raids, I doubt it will make much of a difference in the next two.

Furthermore, they are extremely rare drops as artifacts are already very rare and the shear number of Tier 9 Artifacts makes it much more difficult to try to get specific items (random number generator chooses which artifact drops after player is lucky enough to get an artifact drop): Currently 18 Tier 9 Artifact Global Drops and only one Warrior Artifact Tank Item -> 0.0002% / 18 = 0.000011% or 1 in 9 million monster kills chance of dropping (without AA drop rate upgrades), which is more monster kills than pretty much everyone (except top three players whose scores do not look genuine) have in the all-time monster kill leaderboard

honbag commented 7 years ago

It seems to have the stats of a "tank" item which is why it has so much more HP

lstawowy commented 7 years ago

Meissner You are right, i just thought that there is only one item with that much hp and max hp at others is significantly lower... I meant only that there shouldnt be only one item with so much hp : )

Meissner-Effect commented 7 years ago

No problem : ) sorry if my response was a bit overkill

TravisGesslein commented 7 years ago

Yup, there are some items that have an extra large HP bonus because they are targeted at tanks. This one in particular can also be seen as some bonus HP for damage warriors if you need that item for more rage generation, but I don't have any particular problems with that.

BTW, some real life stuff and easter holidays have put a big slow on the 1.1 testing schedule. I'm preparing the next patch for 1.1 atm, which will push the two new raids in, as well as some new upgrades and various other things. I'll try to see if I can put in quick fixes from here before uploading.