TravisGesslein / idleraiders-second-run

Bug-tracking repository for the Idle Raiders re-release (codenamed '2nd run')
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Hard to get Obsidian in late-game #517

Open Sevenday77 opened 7 years ago

Sevenday77 commented 7 years ago

With the update, which limited the artifact upgrades for dropchance, it's quite hard now to get Obsidian for Weapon/Armor upgrade. Currently sitting on ~10x the gold of 1 upgrade required and dont even have half of the obsidian for it. Haven't reset for quite a while, thats why wrote so late.

Maybe some push for extracting artifacts ? They are now very rare and give so little of Obsidian. :/

askebv commented 7 years ago

Why do you need to extract obsidian from artifacts? I got tons of obsidian from warm staves, void staves and basic crossbows.

TravisGesslein commented 7 years ago

This is another one of those problems where there is no UI that clearly explains what can drop, and under which circumstances. In this case it's just that every item can drop common & rare crafting resources, with rare items having a higher chance of dropping rare resources, and dropping more resources in general. With artifacts in particular you have guaranteed rare extractions, which probably gets quite a few players to think that only artifacts can yield those.

Going slightly mad, there are quite a few things that are obvious improvements but no time to get to them 💩 In cases like this, we have to rely on community support basically (players explaining certain things to other players) until we can get around to working on the issue a long time later (for example, late in Kong beta we fixed some issues that were brought up early in internal private beta, so half a year later).

Sevenday77 commented 7 years ago

@Muskar Only way for me currently, to gain more obsidian then by autofarming, would be to use gain knowledge over and over and let the raiders run all raids which is very tedious at some point.(currently in need of 1930 obsidian)

askebv commented 7 years ago

It would indeed be nice if there was some form of mode where you auto-raid until dead, then auto-gain wisdom.

Sevenday77 commented 7 years ago

Sounds like making a no cooldown on raids would be a faster way ^^. But feels like the waiting time for raids should be there. And sorry misread your post a bit heishe, was crashing like 6k green drops, 800 rares and they gave like 600 obsidian, while the 20 artifacts gave like 300 obsidian(all dropped in the same amount of time). While was gaining around 120m gold and current upgrade is around 7,8m for artifacts + 3,8m pure.

askebv commented 7 years ago

No cooldown for raids seems silly. More first-kill loot is also in effect there. And my suggestion was also because it can be time consuming to convert gold into AA, and that also requires doing the first 4-5 raids and then gaining wisdom, over and over. Unless you rely on Forbidden Knowledge entirely, in which case, I would think you'd end up with more gold than you could ever spend, and only see very slow AA gain.

I wonder, how do you get that much AA late game?

Sevenday77 commented 7 years ago

After clearing the last raid first you'll have enough gear to easily hit on farm map 200+ and the prophecy for clearing 10 farm maps is repeatable+ unlimited, so at 4k+ it should be around 8-10m AA already. Whoops a bit offtopic, yeah i know it is on the priority list very low to change something about the obsidian rate, if at all. Since the game left kong beta recently will surely take some time for most to reach the last raid.

askebv commented 7 years ago

I'm guessing there's a long way from f200 to f4k though. Only exp will get you there, right?

Sevenday77 commented 7 years ago

Atmost the gear, when you hit T8 stuff will see why. :D