[Quest] A Lost Master

[dewmguy]

Description: https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=986/a-lost-master https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=985/how-big-a-threat

Current behaviour: The quest A Lost Master is set to check for completion of the second part of How Big A Threat.

Expected behaviour: The quest A Lost Master is available at level 10 regardless of whether you've completed How Big a Threat.

Branch(es): 3.3.5

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[ghost]

Are you sure that the quest A Lost Master is not supposed to require How Big A Threat (2) to be completed? Comments on wowhead suggests the opposite: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=986/a-lost-master#comments:id=143152:reply=105928

cheekyprincess on 2009/06/25 (Patch 3.1.3) Confirmed, How Big A Threat? chain must be completed.

Please note the quest outro in https://wow.gamepedia.com/How_Big_a_Threat%3F_(2)#Completion:

Cut Scene on completion Terenthis says: What was that noise? It sounded like a roar.

Grimclaw the white bear enters and runs up to Therenthis.

Grimclaw roars at Terenthis to get his attention.

Terenthis says: Grimclaw?! Easy there, my friend... where is your master Volcor?

Grimclaw begins to moan and roar at Terenthis while stomping his paws on the ground.

Terenthis says: Whoa, whoa there, my friend. One moment...

Terenthis begins to cast a spell on Grimclaw.

Terenthis says: There... that should help. Now, tell me what's happened, Grimclaw.

Grimclaw roars at Tarenthis more, but this time the druid seems to understand the bear.

Terenthis says: I understand, my friend. I shall find someone to help your master. Go back to him now, or at least stay close.

Grimclaw roars in acknowledgement at Terenthis.

Terenthis says: If you have the time, Grimclaw and his master Volcor could use your help. If you're interested, speak with me further...

"If you're interested, speak with me further..." is a hint that the next quest is related to what just happened.

[Killyana]

The quest A Lost Master Description: ", your skills have already helped me in my endeavor" And many other comments proves the chaining is correct.

[Wyrserth]

For future reference, Wowhead only shows quest chains when they're turned in and taken from the same NPC.

For example How Big a Threat? (Part 1) is turned in to Terenthis, and he starts How Big a Threat? (Part 2). You're prompted to accept Part 2 right after you turn in Part 1 (mechanic implemented by quest_template's RewardNextQuest field).

So it doesn't mean that two quests aren't chained only because Wowhead doesn't say so. Always check the comments beforehand, as people usually report what quests are required.

[dewmguy]

I referenced a few different sites, none of which indicated a logical step from completing the first chain to the second. For instance, wowwiki always has an indicator for "previous step" and "next step" when chains are involved. They don't indicate there is a prerequisite so that's what made me think it was right to submit an issue. But it looks like you are right, based on the contextual conversation dialogue.

[ghost]

Fair point, I have also noticed that some of the quests removed in Patch 4.0.3a (Cataclysm) sometimes don't have the expected link to the required Next quest step, even if the previous one is linked. For wowhead.com this is more the norm than exception for pre-Cata quests, so I hardly ever look there to verify quest chaining. Fandom sites like wowwiki and wowpedia are usually better for that type of linking, but in this specific case, it is a missing link. We simply need to go by the story development here.