Open idnorton opened 7 years ago
Extensive discussion has already happened on discourse for this over at UK Hackspace Foundation Forum
Features:
In addition (stuff that the swindon system does):
Future enhancements / nice to haves:
Could we have links to the different solutions that exist onbdifferent hackspaces? We can later generate a table to compare requirements and TRL.
Has anybody done the prep work for the legal side on this yet?
Given GDPR coming in next year, there's much greater compliance requirements than the existing DPA. Not sure if I should create a new thread for that discussion? Would like to be able to crib that if anyone has it as that's definitely the starting point for the then technical implementation discussion.
Currently working with someone to try and implement CiviCRM and associated documentation with some use cases but it's not going to happen as quickly as we'd like :/
Ian.
I truly have no idea what the GDPR wants of us because it's so huge and overwhelming.
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Has anybody done the prep work for the legal side on this yet?
Given GDPR coming in next year, there's much greater compliance requirements than the existing DPA. Not sure if I should create a new thread for that discussion? Would like to be able to crib that if anyone has it as that's definitely the starting point for the then technical implementation discussion.
Currently working with someone to try and implement CiviCRM and associated documentation with some use cases but it's not going to happen as quickly as we'd like :/
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Currently working with someone to try and implement CiviCRM and associated documentation with some use cases but it's not going to happen as quickly as we'd like :/
Is this the person you are working with?
Git hub handle @michaelmcandrew Looks like the same person.
hey there, i am @michaelmcandrew (as you may have guessed) but am not working with you guys on civicrm. would be happy to try and help though. I could certainly help with answering any civicrm questions you have and would be happy to help out people that want to implement civicrm at their hackspace (and/or evaluate if civicrm would be a good fit for them).
FWIW, here is some info on civicrm and GDPR http://itforcharities.co.uk/VedaNFPConsultingLTDGDPRV1.2.pdf
Hello all,
I'm the one that is working with @idnorton towards an easily (enough) solution to get a Drupal & CiviCRM (with containers, MAYBE...) Installation with defaults that are useful for the UK spaces context.
Like Ian said, still very early stages of getting ansible scripts ironed out and in some cases, assessing if even useful.
Ian sent me the link to this issue and I'm a member of the Lancaster and Morecambe Makers(LAMM) space.
Hope I'm not intruding too much by posting 😃
Cheers, Gus
Thank you @gcarreno not intruding at all thank you for coming. If the project is being hosted somewhere, could you link to it?
Thank you @michaelmcandrew for stopping by.
I guess we could focus this issue with a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) decided by user-centric design for our solution and selecting a number of Personae and doing a validation of their desires and empathies.
The types of Personae I propose are:
Since 2017, there has also been the emergence of https://github.com/membermatters/MemberMatters providing billing via stripe, integration with SpaceAPI.io, physical/tool access via maglogs and RFID readers, and a few other things.
This is still a hot topic of conversation on the Telegram group and could probably do with a clear-steer from UKHSF, even if that's "We have a list of prefered ones, but feel free to write your own"
@idnorton / @gcarreno / @amunizp - did the CiviCRM stuff go anywhere? Is it worth using, or should we just be saying "here's a list of things people are already using, pick one and see how you get on?"
Hey Matthew (@proffalken),
The CiviCRM
did go somewhere. But it's been quite a while since I've been involved with the project, or even gone to my hackspace, that I completely forget the details.
Maybe Ian (@idnorton) is the better person to answer this since he was a lot more invested into it.
Cheers, Gus
Thanks @gcarreno , appreciate your time to answer this!
Hey Matthew(@proffalken),
More than welcome!!
Cheers, Gus
I guess it might be worth adding a bit of a checklist of the systems that currently exist that meet certain standards/criteria?
For example:
@amunizp - great idea! Is that something you might be able to look at, or shall we ask on the organisers' telegram chat?
I think we should bikeshed this in the owners manual chat. I'll start with a proposal and look for consensus.
Simplify what was mentioned in https://github.com/UKHackspaceFoundation/foundation/issues/43#issuecomment-288753742 and in https://github.com/UKHackspaceFoundation/foundation/issues/43#issuecomment-288429280 as much as possible.
For a CRM to be listed by Hackspace Foundation it should have as many of following features:
This table will contain a list of proposed systems that you can use at your own risk.
No. That would be an ideal scenario.
Like a classic Wikipedia comparison table. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRM_systems
List of choices.
Owner Manual is always just a recommendation. Evidently if admins of a certain space purposely use a system that harms anybody in any way it will be a clear indicator that their intentions are not within the spirit of UKHSF.
This should not be seen any more binding than opening a travel magazine that states "Top 5 beaches in Cornwall".
We should find the one system that all hackspaces contribute to and recommend that.
We should present different options with the details and possible pros and cons for people to make their own informed decisions. Specific uses should be in case studies for people to see how those panned out for individual organisations.
Even if you do believe there should be one recommended option only, this can be a way to find out.
Love it! Especially the last comment :rofl:
We should find the one system that all hackspaces contribute to and recommend that.
I strongly disagree with this. We should present different options with the details and possible pros and cons for people to make their own informed decisions. Specific uses should be in case studies for people to see how those panned out for individual organisations.
Re features & bikeshedding, this may be of use as a starting point - https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Hackerspace_Software
Proposal was consented by several members of the telegram chat (5).
We agreed to upload to drive.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sgf3-2HtiPM7vMdyNAZbP0YhzgYRfBE_mIoxtXSimE4/edit?usp=drivesdk
I thought we had an issue for this but apparently not.
Customer Relationship Management (CRM) / Member Relationship Management (MRM) systems are diverse and contentious. Some spaces write their own whilst others try and adopt solutions to fit their needs.
This is a common need for all hackspaces so we should have a section for discussion of it.