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Decide whether Login.gov can meet need for identity proofing #76

Closed cmajel closed 4 years ago

cmajel commented 4 years ago

Background Forest Service verifies the ID of folks purchasing firewood permits because they need to ensure that the permittee themselves is agreeing to abide by the rules of the permit. We want to understand whether Login.gov could be used to meet the need for permit purchasers to verify their identity and whether we could implement this capability under the existing Login.gov agreement.

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MelissaBraxton commented 4 years ago

Qs and notes doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18F_Cv1mJqKaXdIKw9LdXR4s3EAP4Y6JAGt4DmSdH-Cc/edit?usp=sharing

MelissaBraxton commented 4 years ago

tl;dr - There are trade offs with going with Login.gov for ID verification.

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MelissaBraxton commented 4 years ago

@bboddiger - Let's chat about these tradeoffs next week. My recommendation would be to pursue modifying the current agreement to add ID verification with Login.gov, but we'll want to understand the costs first.

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MelissaBraxton commented 4 years ago

Related to comparative analysis issue here.

bboddiger commented 4 years ago

Hi Melissa, thanks for this. I read the comments you provided but haven’t been able yet to get to the documents themselves. One question I do have is around password usage and whether that turns out to be an issue for folks who may only access once or twice a year for their annual permits. Is a password even required for these accounts or do they just use ssn-do you know?

Beth Boddiger, USDA-FS National TIM (Timber Information Manager) Team Lead WO Forest Management -Detached 2150 Centre Ave, BLDG A/STE 316 Fort Collins, CO 80526 Phone: 970-295-5792

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MelissaBraxton commented 4 years ago

It is a great Q!

Once they have an account, the ID proofing feature verifies their ID using their SSN.

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Hi Melissa, thanks for this. I read the comments you provided but haven’t been able yet to get to the documents themselves. One question I do have is around password usage and whether that turns out to be an issue for folks who may only access once or twice a year for their annual permits. Is a password even required for these accounts or do they just use ssn-do you know?

Beth Boddiger, USDA-FS National TIM (Timber Information Manager) Team Lead WO Forest Management -Detached 2150 Centre Ave, BLDG A/STE 316 Fort Collins, CO 80526 Phone: 970-295-5792

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