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This book will be an undergraduate textbook written in the univalent style, taking advantage of the presence of symmetry in the logic at an early stage.
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Definition of transitive G-set #184

Closed pierrecagne closed 1 year ago

pierrecagne commented 1 year ago

I think our definition of transitive $G$-set is flawed.

Right now the definition of $X$ being a transitive $G$-set reduces to the propositional truncation of $$\sum_{b:X(shG)}\prod{a:X(shG)}\sum{g: UG}g\cdot b = a.$$

However, if we want (and we really do!) transitive $G$-sets to correspond to connected set bundles over $BG$, I think we really want the propositional truncation of $$\sum_{b:X(shG)}\prod{a:X(shG)}\exists{g: UG} g\cdot b = a.$$

And I don't see why the internal truncation of the $\exists$ could be omitted. Am I missing something?

UlrikBuchholtz commented 1 year ago

I agree. (For finite sets X, we can use finite choice to go the other way, but not in general.)

marcbezem commented 1 year ago

Does that mean that the proof of Lemma 4.7.13 now (implicitly and inadvertently) uses AC?

UlrikBuchholtz commented 1 year ago

Yes, exactly.

UlrikBuchholtz commented 1 year ago

I've pushed 67f2c79 which fixes the definition and the following remark, but touches nothing else. (It also illustrates the new scaling \exists.) Should we use \exists also for the outer truncation+sum?

marcbezem commented 1 year ago

Yes. I think the purpose of Remark 4.7.12 is to simplify Definition 4.7.11, and using \exists also for the outer truncation+sum is simpler. Another point is the use of "there (merely) is/exists" in Remark 4.7.12 and the proof of Lemma 4.7.13, several times, but not for the "g". Given my "Yes" above, they now all phrase \exists so we could perhaps use "there exists" (without "merely") for all of them?

UlrikBuchholtz commented 1 year ago

Done in bb573d7 – Can we now close this issue?

pierrecagne commented 1 year ago

I think so, looks good to me.