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Don't you verb! #6

Closed amir-zeldes closed 3 years ago

amir-zeldes commented 3 years ago

@nschneid @sebschu any opinions on: "don't you worry!"

nsubj(worry, you)

Or:

vocative(worry, you)

?

nschneid commented 3 years ago

nsubj. It can be combined with a vocative: "Don't you worry, John!"

amir-zeldes commented 3 years ago

OK - we can adopt this analysis since it has two votes already, though just as devil's advocate, consider:

nschneid commented 3 years ago
  • You can generally have more than one vocative, so combinability with another vocative isn't decisive: "John, don't do it you rascal!"

But you can't substitute vocative "John" for "you":

And a vocative after an auxiliary or copula would be unusual I think:

Rather, the idiom can be considered a case of subject-auxiliary inversion. Goldberg (2006) has an analysis of SAI constructions for various non-declarative sentence types.

  • Imperatives don't usually have nsubj, so this would be a big exception (I assume here if it's nsubj it's somehow subject of the infinitive, but of course in UD this is not really visible, since "do" is aux and could never host the subject anyway)

True, usually it's unnecessary—but I don't know that it would be ungrammatical for imperatives to have a "you" subject. I'm imagining colloquial sentences like "You stop talking right this minute!". (Not vocative IMO.)

dan-zeman commented 3 years ago

I agree that it is quite strange to have a subject of an imperative – this has not occurred to me at first! But even if it makes me less decided about the nsubj option, it does not make me think that the vocative option is great, so I think I'm still leaning towards nsubj, at least until I see more arguments in favor of vocative.

jnivre commented 3 years ago

I definitely support the nsubj analysis. Imperatives (marginally) take subjects in the same way in Swedish, and there are a number of criteria (some of them prosodic) to distinguish them from vocatives. The English construction appears to be parallel. Note, for example, that the subject of an imperative has to be in the second person, which the vocative doesn't have to be:

You, don't worry! Dan, don't worry! Don't you worry! *Don't Dan worry!

amir-zeldes commented 3 years ago

Thanks everyone - I've also asked for input from my colleague Ruth Kramer, who is a theoretical syntactician. She supports the nsubj analysis and pointed me to this paper arguing for imperative subjects in some constructions:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11049-007-9029-6

We'll be sure to apply this analysis for the upcoming winter release of GUM V7 (brand new genres and data!)