xcomp:pred vs obl

[ThFransen84]

I queried the issues but the following issue didn't come up; I hope I'm not duplicating anything. I'm also relatively new to UD ...

I'm unsure how to label prepositional phrases with lemma bí as the head. According to the documentation, instances like Níl fhios agam are obl:prep (https://universaldependencies.org/ga/dep/obl-prep.html), while e.g. Bhí saol ainnis aici ... (IUDT sent_id: 545) has xcomp:pred, which is, admittedly, quite rare with prep. pronouns, apart from ann "there" (which is explicitly listed in the documentation as being an example of xcomp:pred, see https://universaldependencies.org/ga/dep/xcomp-pred.html).

Instances with prep. phrases other than prep. pronouns seem more arbitrarily labeled with either dependency relation:

obl:

go raibh siad os coinne an phoill chearnaigh... (sent_id: 458), Ach beo bocht a bheadh ar an té... (sent_id: 460), cailín a bhíodh mar amhranaí... (sent_id: 461), bhí an-tóir ag na Francaigh ar chuile shórt... (2x) (sent_id: 468), Ní raibh eolas dá laghad ag an tiománaí (sent_id: 917), Tá stádas faoi leith ag an UDA sa tSeanchill (2x) (sent_id: 923), ceann de na buntáistí is luachmhaire a bhíonn ag pobal neamhspléach... (sent_id: 970), etc.

xcomp:pred:

agus atá siad faoi láthair... (sent_id: 918), atá ar siúl... (sent_id: 922), go bhfuil géarghá le Comhairleoir Gaeilge lánaimseartha... (sent_id: 947), Bhí an fear ag an doras. (sent_id: 1037), Tá an teach a bhí ag an mhinistéir... (sent_id: 1209), Tá caighdeáin dhif-riúla imeartha ag na hÍsiltírigh ná mar atá againn. (sent_id: 1796), etc. In the last example (which I obviously had to include here ;-)), we have coordinated arguments, although the first is xcomp:pred and the second obl:prep, which feels inconsistent.

There are instances with multiple arguments; in those cases I can see how one of the arguments of bí should be xcomp:pred, and the other obl(:prep).

Any help greatly appreciated.

[tlynn747]

Will look into this next week... thanks for using the treebank and the opportunity to dig into the data :)

[tlynn747]

Thanks for pointing these few inconsistencies out Dorus. Most of the issues you point out occur between sentences 1-1020, which was the original IDT that was converted to UD - and there's a higher chance that those issues arose during the conversion/ reviewing stage.

But overall the decisions aren't abritary.

Bí + preposition for ownership is obl If that ownership is denoted by a prepositonal pronoun, then the language specific label obl:prep is used. Bí + predicate in the form of verbal noun (progressive aspectual phrases) = xcomp Bí + predicate in the form of prepositional phrase (e.g. beidh an chóip sin ina fianaise) = xcomp:pred

Out of the examples you gave, the following are incorrect and:

• should be xcomp:pred

  go raibh siad os coinne an phoill chearnaigh... (sent_id: 458)
  Ach beo bocht a bheadh ar an té... (sent_id: 460)
  cailín a bhíodh mar amhranaí... (sent_id: 461)

• should be obl

  Tá an teach a bhí ag an mhinistéir... (sent_id: 1209) 
  Tá caighdeáin dhifriúla imeartha ag na hÍsiltírigh ná mar atá againn. (sent_id: 1796), 

• should be obl:prep

  Bhí saol ainnis aici   (sent_id: 545)

Prepositions attached to nouns and verbal nouns are usually nmod

The labelling of ann is probably the most vague. We went with treating it as a predicate, but could possible be labelled as advmod.

[ThFransen84]

Thanks, Teresa. A follow-up question: is bí + preposition for ownership restricted to ag? I'm thinking of cases like tá gruaig dhubh ar an gcailín / uirthi etc.