LordDerMoff
commented
2 years ago The main problem about the new SHC ranges are that the AI doesn't (can't) use the bonus range. The auto-fire only starts when the target is in the shooting range of 50. So even if an archer is on a plateau tower, he will only begin shooting automatically when his enemy pendant on the ground is 50 tiles away. The only way to use the higher shooting range is to manually let them attack the target (which will then be hit, even if it's for ex. 54 tiles away). But to do this is tiresome for human players and impossible to do for the AI.
Therefore, even if there is a theoretical range difference due to elevation in the game, it's practically useless. The priority should be fixing the correlation between elevation and auto-fire, which could be tricky regarding the strange hardcoded nature of distance in SHC (I am no coder - maybe a hero on a white stallion will be our saviour)
Swartonf
GRhin
Hello, is it possible to add the Stronghold 1 archer and crossbowmen range bonus to Stronghold Crusader?
In Stronghold 1, archer/crossbow range was dependent on terrain height more so than in Crusader. Standing a max height with a Stronghold-Keep on top allowed for the maximum range, shooting up from the ground allowed them to use only a fragment of their maximum range. That range bonus was close to totally nullified in Stronghold Crusader. Additiionally, the coresponding "Out Of Range" speech, heared in Stronghold 1, was removed (triggered, when trying to shoot from the ground up too far): ...\fx\speech\ Arch_ATKNT.wav Cross_ATKNT.wav
Crusader's arabic units have their own speech files: Abow_ATKNT.wav Asling_ATKNT.wav
... adding this would fix the overpowerdness of arabic horse archers elegantly, with archers on walls able to outrange them. And it is also more realistic, that you can shoot further on a tower, wall or mountain. I always hated that Crusader removed this.
Archer Range Comparison Table . . . . . | flat ground | high wall | high plateau | square tower | high plateau with square tower SH1: absolute: 37 | 43 | 45 | 46 | 46 relative: +0 | +6 | +8 | +9 | +9 percental: +0% | +16% | +22% | +24% | +24% SHC: absolute: 50 | 52 | 52 | 53 | 54 relative: +0 | +2 | +2 | +3 | +4 percental: +0% | +4% | +4% | +6% | +8%