Closed hamidrezaomidvar closed 4 years ago
Yes – I have some suggestions
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better to be resolved at the SUEWS side.
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It turned out WRF overestimates Kdown in our London case as well; sorry I overlooked this part and thought it had been resolved.
Given the results about AOD and Kdown in Shanghai and Beijing, I suggest for our WRF-SUEWS evaluations we patch SuMin specifically for WRF-SUEWS instead of SUEWS for the following concerns:
As such, we can apply the thresholds in SuMin to correct the Kdown going into SUEWS kernel while keep current SUEWS as is.
However, for the long run, we may consider to introduce a chemical forcing file (e.g., hourly AOD measurements) that allows dynamic correction/adjustment of Kdown in a more responsive way.
Please let me know your thoughts.
If the SuMin approach sounds sensible, I'll start the implementation.
I think we should first compare the transmissivity for the model and observations for the study periods. I.e. use the data we already have
month | transmissivity | diff=sim-obs |
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Jan | ||
Apr | ||
Jul | ||
Oct |
If we use a Kdn threshold - what is needed to remove the switch in the morning hours? (ie. from negative to positive difference)
Please could you now plot the differences normalised by time after SR (i.e. SR to SS=1) for the four periods. Please plot the four different periods (with the shading ) with one normalised time access
Hi @suegrimmond, I'm exploring different options for Kdown threshold but the results are not ideal. I guess your second part is to generalise diff_tau as a function of t_SR, which I'm working on now.
It may be could be Zenith angle
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Hi @suegrimmondhttps://github.com/suegrimmond, I'm exploring different options for Kdown threshold but the results are not ideal. I guess your second part is to generalise diff_tau as a function of t_SR, which I'm working on now.
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That's a good point! re: zenith angle. My quick tentative conclusion for this is that a single cutoff might not be necessary to correct the modelled Kdown. I'll keep on posting new results that are sensible for further discussions.
Maybe we can use a zenith angle as the starting time of the correction.
The overestimated Kdown by WRF seems to be a well-known issue that has been discussed in many papers, some of which are the following: https://dx.doi.org/10.1002/2016jd025527 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/MWR-D-15-0262.1
Note:
t^~
is the time since sunrise normalised by length of day.Note:
t^~
is the time since sunrise normalised by length of day.Useful to see that this is consistent with London
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Swindon results
Note:
Transmissivity
[download]https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1802656/63230075-e851b180-c1ff-11e9-9a9b-df515bb8c380.png
dif = sim - obs
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I have started implementing this. However, I think we need a more sophisticated method to modify kdown
rather than a threshold (for example after midday) because it leads a jump in kdown
when we kick in the modification.
I see this in a simple implementation I did
I applied the transmissivity difference over the entire day to make sure it has a smooth profile. I did a run over April period. The run is not fully finished yet (11 to 22 is finished), but here are the results. The first two plots are original and modified Kdown
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The modification is done in the interface of WRF-SUEWS, so the original SUEWS code is not changed!
better to be resolved at the SUEWS side.