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6 months ago Ho @Janusz:
Thanks for your feedback and your kind words.
I am developing sVB alone, building on Microsoft Small Basic, which had no accessibility options.
The problem is that I am doing everything alone, like fixing bugs, adding new features and writing a book series to introduce sVB to kids and beginners. Unfortunately, I have no experience with the accessibility area, but this is an open source project, and I welcome any contribution in this.
That being said, there is a solution to the form design issue: You can totally design the form with code, although some features will not be possible like using gradient colors. Only solid colors can be used in code for simplicity.
To add controls on the form by code, just use Me.AddLabel, Me.AddButton, Me.AddTextBox methods. There are similar methods for the rest of the 12 controls shown in the toolbox.
Each of this method returns the key of the added control, so you can use it as the control object to access its properties, methods and events. There are samples on all these methods in thee sVB reference books, and in the "Show Buttons" and "Random Buttons 3" sample applications.
I will try to find why the text readers can't read the errors list, and I hope it can be easy to fix this issue. But thee designer will need much work as I imagine.
Thanks you.
From: Janusz Chmiel @.> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 5:28 PM To: VBAndCs/sVB-Small-Visual-Basic @.> Cc: Subscribed @.***> Subject: [VBAndCs/sVB-Small-Visual-Basic] Plea for screen readers accessibility improvement (Issue #51)
Dear elite developers, When I have tried your IDE and your programming language, I have started to be very very happy. Why? Because I could have so positive feelings, that even though I do not see at all, I have finally The chance to create modern .exe apps based on Net Framework with no need to use Visual Studio. Yours language is so effective and simple at The same time. It produces fully accessible user interface when .exe app is being executed.
I have The following big plea to you. How complex would be for you to redesign Ther user interface of Small visual basic IDE, so screen reader users could choose The GUI elements from The list? When creating form. So in The Form TAB. And if some item would be chosen by using keyboard, user could also choose by using context menu event such as button click. I Am afraid, that I can not simply create 4 or 5 buttons without IDE and simply compile new form which would be created by this manual way. And what would happen, if user would not use The mouse to define new GUI element position and if visually impaired user would create several GUI elements without using Mouse to position every item correctly? COuld it cause some Net framework run-time exception or error?
Next big accessibility issue is The code editor editable field. But in This case. I Am very tolerant human beeing. And I could simply write The corresponding code by using AN UTF8 compatible text editor such as standard Notepad from Microsoft. But forms must be very probably auto generated by using Ide to prevent chaos and errors. Big problem is The error message when using F5 key to compile The code. Some read only editable field could contain such error message with The corresponding line number.
I have tested your language by using samples, which you have provided and I really think, that it is robust, reliable and stable solution.
You are elite programmers and I think, that Small visual Basic has really a open future. Thank you very very much for your comment or for your help or advice. With The deepest possible appreciation and with The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel
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JanuszChmiel
Dear elite developers, When I have tried your IDE and your programming language, I have started to be very very happy. Why? Because I could have so positive feelings, that even though I do not see at all, I have finally The chance to create modern .exe apps based on Net Framework with no need to use Visual Studio. Yours language is so effective and simple at The same time. It produces fully accessible user interface when .exe app is being executed.
I have The following big plea to you. How complex would be for you to redesign Ther user interface of Small visual basic IDE, so screen reader users could choose The GUI elements from The list? When creating form. So in The Form TAB. And if some item would be chosen by using keyboard, user could also choose by using context menu event such as button click. I Am afraid, that I can not simply create 4 or 5 buttons without IDE and simply compile new form which would be created by this manual way. And what would happen, if user would not use The mouse to define new GUI element position and if visually impaired user would create several GUI elements without using Mouse to position every item correctly? COuld it cause some Net framework run-time exception or error?
Next big accessibility issue is The code editor editable field. But in This case. I Am very tolerant human beeing. And I could simply write The corresponding code by using AN UTF8 compatible text editor such as standard Notepad from Microsoft. But forms must be very probably auto generated by using Ide to prevent chaos and errors. Big problem is The error message when using F5 key to compile The code. Some read only editable field could contain such error message with The corresponding line number.
I have tested your language by using samples, which you have provided and I really think, that it is robust, reliable and stable solution.
You are elite programmers and I think, that Small visual Basic has really a open future. Thank you very very much for your comment or for your help or advice. With The deepest possible appreciation and with The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel