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Massive drop in Behavior score in Turbo mode - EUW/NA server #13381

Open rmk221 opened 10 months ago

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

Description

I've been doing the Road to TI challenge in Turbo last week or 2 and have seen my score gradually plummet from 9k to 4.7k at the moment.

Mind you, I have done HALF the all hero challenge, 3x cavern crawl maps last year (for the CM, Jugg Slardar 3 styles), and cavern crawls for OTHER Battlepasses in TURBO, and NEVER seen behavior drop like this! Even picking weird heroes like meepo support for cavern crawls, never had me destroy my score like this!

I can't begin to speculate at what exactly caused this, but seeing OTHER people here, reddit, and the steam discussions have the same problem worries me. It all seems to have started within the last 3 weeks from what I've seen.

Edit: For what it's worth I added 2 more pages of conduct score. Point is I've never dropped this low

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Waxz200 commented 10 months ago

Same here.

marcelmaster commented 10 months ago

13340

same here , upvote please ( thumbs up )

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

same problems

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

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2023-11-08_22-51-34

I have the same problem, all I do is complete a series of "road to international" tasks! I don’t do anything that spoils the gameplay of other players, I just play. For the sake of experimentation, I turned on the “do not receive messages” mode and turned off all chats, my decency continued to decline, even when I received 20 likes from 15 games and there were no complaints. There are clearly some problems with the system!

In total I lost over 4.5 thousand in integrity, this is impossible, if there were complaints, I would play single draft every time

2023-11-07_23-07-18

yuneche commented 10 months ago

same

pajus1337 commented 10 months ago

That the changes are needed and it was stupid to make such a system, which was not even checked in the right way I will leave without comment, (I think those responsible for this realize what a failure they have committed...) however, in addition to the amendment itself, the whole scoring system should be reset, because it is completely destroyed by this whole new system

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

That the changes are needed and it was stupid to make such a system, which was not even checked in the right way I will leave without comment, (I think those responsible for this realize what a failure they have committed...) however, in addition to the amendment itself, the whole scoring system should be reset, because it is completely destroyed by this whole new system

What amuses me the most is how can I play Dota if my integrity is taken away? Just go play another game for a week? It even sounds funny.

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

That the changes are needed and it was stupid to make such a system, which was not even checked in the right way I will leave without comment, (I think those responsible for this realize what a failure they have committed...) however, in addition to the amendment itself, the whole scoring system should be reset, because it is completely destroyed by this whole new system

A full reset is a very bad idea and would be unfair to the honest players out there. Valve has already fixed/adjusted behavior score after that big fiasco with Quinn a month or two ago. I am pretty sure they can hotfix whatever is causing this without resetting the whole thing.

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

Description

I've been doing the Road to TI challenge in Turbo last week or 2 and have seen my score gradually plummet from 9k to 4.7k at the moment.

Mind you, I have done HALF the all hero challenge, 3x cavern crawl maps last year (for the CM, Jugg Slardar 3 styles), and cavern crawls for OTHER Battlepasses in TURBO, and NEVER seen behavior drop like this! Even picking weird heroes like meepo support for cavern crawls, never had me destroy my score like this!

I can't begin to speculate at what exactly caused this, but seeing OTHER people here, reddit, and the steam discussions have the same problem worries me. It all seems to have started within the last 3 weeks from what I've seen.

Example Match ID (and possibly Timestamp)

No response

Screenshots

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Can you tell us more about these values? Unfortunately, I do not understand English at a technical level.

pajus1337 commented 10 months ago

That the changes are needed and it was stupid to make such a system, which was not even checked in the right way I will leave without comment, (I think those responsible for this realize what a failure they have committed...) however, in addition to the amendment itself, the whole scoring system should be reset, because it is completely destroyed by this whole new system

A full reset is a very bad idea and would be unfair to the honest players out there. Valve has already fixed/adjusted behavior score after that big fiasco with Quinn a month or two ago. I am pretty sure they can hotfix whatever is causing this without resetting the whole thing.

Considering how many honest players have fallen victim to this poorly designed system, I believe it is the only right way to return to the status quo,and before that, develop a better system,

MorfikKK commented 10 months ago

same here

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pajus1337 commented 10 months ago

However, what puzzles me is why with so many users under you, none of the developers respond to the current problem ( officially ), which in total to me is even sadder than the mere fact that someone screwed up the release of this system into circulation, every game developer knows how important it is to test the reactions of people who will experience the updates, and I say this as a total green person in the direction of games, in theory I learned about it, so it surprises me that with your lack of response you treat them like "garbage"

Waxz200 commented 10 months ago

Valve are inbreed idiots, donøt expect those incompetent morons to do anything.

MehmetCanOncirak commented 10 months ago

same, I was 12k now 10k behaviour. Played mostly turbo matches for compendium challenges

cosmonab commented 10 months ago

sq hello fixed pls and give me back my behavior mr gabe

effect1111 commented 10 months ago

same 07 11 2023

BledNavalny commented 10 months ago

We need the names. Not Gabe. The names who doing this to us, you said you are the small team. Then there must be 3-5 guys who poops this on millions of people.

BlushyFace commented 10 months ago

same...

MorfikKK commented 10 months ago

2023-11-08

update 4460 to 3710 soon no ranked tnx gabe

arturkrugol commented 10 months ago

same

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

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Road to losing ranked priveledge I guess. Although I have no plans to do ranked untill 9k+. At this rate earnest efforts to improve score are not working. I still don't get how I get so many comms reports EVEN below 6k where chat is revoked. Can people report you for high-fives now? Hero taunts?

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

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Adding this brief update.

yuneche commented 10 months ago

ty 4 people who cant fixxed beh score without quinn rages stream . im played 150 games at turbo- mode without voice and chat, because i have below 6k score and i have 10+ report about comm reports.TELL me HOW i can get this reports for what. image

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

This topic needs to be raised somehow, waiting for a solution to the problem is the same as not playing Dota for a large number of players.

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

This topic needs to be raised somehow, waiting for a solution to the problem is the same as not playing Dota for a large number of players.

IDK how to. I think the end is likely at this rate since raising is literally impossible with people reporting you for anything and everything EVEN when you have no chat priveledge.

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A dev answered someone on Reddit recently, first post in like 2-3 years, so maybe there is hope this can get fixed soon.

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

This topic needs to be raised somehow, waiting for a solution to the problem is the same as not playing Dota for a large number of players.

IDK how to. I think the end is likely at this rate since raising is literally impossible with people reporting you for anything and everything EVEN when you have no chat priveledge.

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A dev answered someone on Reddit recently, first post in like 2-3 years, so maybe there is hope this can get fixed soon.

I sent them a topic, like and raise the topic in his discussion so that we can be noticed https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/17psjb1/comment/k8fmjsm/

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

Give me a link or post a link to this topic there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/17psjb1/behavior_system_is_broken_again/

This was linked in another reddit post already, people are aware. A quick search of behavior will shows plenty of other people having their scores tanking in the last 2 weeks.

MatejHubocan commented 10 months ago

https://steamcommunity.com/id/K4jl3r/gcpd/570/?category=Account&tab=MatchPlayerReportIncoming image image

arturkrugol commented 10 months ago

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rmk221 commented 10 months ago

image Still dropping. I would love to know if there is 1 person out there who has climbed from 6k behavior since the patch? I remember ages ago it was easily doable turbo just playing support, now people can use all reports on you just because you played well, or played poorly. In the low scores you are damned if u do, damned if you don't :(

And as I posted an extensive history on my conduct I was 9-10k consistently before they increased to 12k. Are we supposed to ditch this game, sell our accounts? Should I post even more pages of conduct summary to show I was 10k player for years?

marcelmaster commented 10 months ago

why is this case closed when it hasnt got fixed ?

gitguddota2 commented 10 months ago

why is this case closed when it hasnt got fixed ?

hey @rmk221 you accidentaly closed your own issue. you can find the button to reopen at the bottom of the page beside the "comment" button.

rmk221 commented 10 months ago

Oh my bad didn't even notice lol

Dota2BugFixer commented 10 months ago

Almost a week has passed and there is still no solution. It feels like the person doesn’t understand the seriousness of the problem. I wrote to the developer in private messages, no feedback. I'm sitting playing custom games, laughing.