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Bug: Voicelines are being counted for player reports #13394

Open benndur opened 8 months ago

benndur commented 8 months ago

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From a reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/17q237w/petition_to_publish_the_mechanism_of_the/k89fvj8/?context=3

"I've only been playing party unranked with my buddies since end of TI. Our stack is ( immortal(me pos 3), divine (pos 2), ancient(pos 1), ancient (pos 4), archon(pos 5).

1) We aren't all chatting with enemy. Literally don't have the need to.

2) We are in discord call together.

3) we have been using talent voicelines ( that we PAID for)

4) None of us are smurfs.

My behavior score dropped by 4k from being 11k, theirs by 2k to 6k.

Only thing makes sense is we are being reported for using voicelines.

Which is utterly ridiculous.

So yes something is out of whack."

It makes no sense that players can use communication reports on others for voice lines. It seems this is indeed the case right now, as even players under 3k behaviour score, who can't even communicate, are still getting communication reports.

This is likely a related to why there are so many people complaining about behaviour score drops right now.

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Waxz200 commented 8 months ago

I don't think its about voice lines. People are just abusing reports, and they'll drop your behavior score no matter if they are true or false right now. You don't even need to use chat at all, to get reported for commu abuse.

benndur commented 8 months ago

I don't think its about voice lines. People are just abusing reports, and they'll drop your behavior score no matter if they are true or false right now. You don't even need to use chat at all, to get reported for commu abuse.

The user specifically said they only play 5 stacks and don't communicate with the enemy. They have no reason to use in-game communication since they are in discord with each other, and they obviously aren't reporting each other so by process of elimination that leaves the enemy abusing communication reports.

"You don't even need to use chat at all, to get reported for commu abuse."

You just contradicted yourself. Why do you can get reported without using chat? That's the whole point. Voice lines/Chat wheel are likely making players eligible for reports.

Waxz200 commented 8 months ago

I dont know dude. But my behavior is now 5k, dropped by 2k by only playing turbo. My score keeps going down, i cant even chat or talk in the game now. But i keep getting alot of reports for Communication abuse, i dont even use voice lines.

eric1294 commented 8 months ago

No one wants to hear your obnoxious talent voice lines. Keep your mouth shut and you won't get reported.

Waxz200 commented 8 months ago

So reporting for voice lines should punish you?. Why are they even in the game then. Lmao

eric1294 commented 8 months ago

Yes it should if it's annoying the hell out of other players. So in a nutshell you deserved the reports and the mutes.

Waxz200 commented 8 months ago

You are retarded i can tell you that.

arturkrugol commented 8 months ago

There is reallly actual thing in the topic.

benndur commented 8 months ago

No one wants to hear your obnoxious talent voice lines. Keep your mouth shut and you won't get reported.

Sounds like you need to get better at the game buddy! If you're this mad that your enemies keep owning you and using voicelines on you, you should try getting better at the game! Being salty on github is not going to help you :)

Waxz200 commented 8 months ago

Yes voice lines were made so people could use them lmao :D

eric1294 commented 8 months ago

No one wants to hear your obnoxious talent voice lines. Keep your mouth shut and you won't get reported.

Sounds like you need to get better at the game buddy! If you're this mad that your enemies keep owning you and using voicelines on you, you should try getting better at the game! Being salty on github is not going to help you :)

Sounds like you need to go be a dick somewhere else. Not being salty here you walking STD.

rmk221 commented 8 months ago

Probably voiceline and ping related. I don't even mean pinging team items, even basic map pings might be reportable. It plummeted after using ephey voiceline a lot, then just keeps going down even though I don't use lines anymore.

eric1294 commented 8 months ago

No surprise on that - those voice lines are obnoxious.

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Probably voiceline and ping related. I don't even mean pinging team items, even basic map pings might be reportable. It plummeted after using ephey voiceline a lot, then just keeps going down even though I don't use lines anymore.

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gitguddota2 commented 8 months ago

Yes it should if it's annoying the hell out of other players. So in a nutshell you deserved the reports and the mutes.

Hey, there is a mute feature implemented for a reason. If you don't want to see it, mute them. Players have specifically paid a subscription fee to DotaPlus or bought talent voicelines and it is absolutely insane you are suggesting players should be punished for using in-game features.

That's like reporting the enemy for using a TP scroll instead of walking everywhere XD

Part of the behavior issue is players like you reporting players who are not griefing, feeding, AFK or intentionally ruining games. Just getting on your nerves by playing a funny voiceline :)

benndur commented 8 months ago

Yes it should if it's annoying the hell out of other players. So in a nutshell you deserved the reports and the mutes.

Hey, there is a mute feature implemented for a reason. If you don't want to see it, mute them. Players have specifically paid a subscription fee to DotaPlus or bought talent voicelines and it is absolutely insane you are suggesting players should be punished for using in-game features.

That's like reporting the enemy for using a TP scroll instead of walking everywhere XD

Part of the behavior issue is players like you reporting players who are not griefing, feeding, AFK or intentionally ruining games. Just getting on your nerves by playing a funny voiceline :)

Don't waste your time trying to use logic on trolls, it's simply an exercise in futility.

No one wants to hear your obnoxious talent voice lines. Keep your mouth shut and you won't get reported.

Sounds like you need to get better at the game buddy! If you're this mad that your enemies keep owning you and using voicelines on you, you should try getting better at the game! Being salty on github is not going to help you :)

Sounds like you need to go be a dick somewhere else. Not being salty here you walking STD.

Have you tried getting better at the game buddy? Maybe that's why you're so upset? Because youre garbage at 10 year old game? :) Sorry friend!

TRANDAFIR77 commented 7 months ago

I got muted 2 years ago or something like that, by using only the voiceline from PL "such simple minds". I could still use it even though I was chat restricted for 48h. I got further reported for communicaiton abuse and went to 120h and tanked around 3k behaviour. When I sent them a ticket, as I stated that I paid for dota+, a premium service they offer or w/e, they said that they can't do anything. And I asked, what do you mean you can't do anything if I pay for dota+ to use the voice lines, yet I get muted and I cannot enjoy the game? I had 3 months ban after that. I took a break, was absolute impossible to play. went from 10k behaviour to around 6,2k or something like that back then. They will not fix it, it is an old issue and I am not the only one who experienced it.