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SBMM and team balancing #13782

Open Downdate opened 11 months ago

Downdate commented 11 months ago

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I started to play your game after 1.5 years. and at the beginning it was fine and the matches were good but after a few games the SBMM started to almost force me to lose. in many of those games I managed to win the game but it is so stressful and bad that I can't play your game anymore.

I mean if you want to put me against higher skill players at least help me rank up then put me against these boosters and smurfs. in many of my games I mostly 1v9 or sometimes 2v8 but bad team balancing is not going to help.

I provide you with some of the matches: in this one SF was clearly not in this mmr bracket and the enemy team all have had rampages on their profile but my team wasn't like them( I was slark ) 7453825167

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I know I am not Immortal and you might say that it is just a skill issue but this kind of team balancing is not going to help at all

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andraip commented 11 months ago

Game 7453825167: Do you seriously think the SF who died 13 times is a smurf? Just because he stomped a melee hero in lane with SF? SF is very good in lane vs melee. It looks like a very even and balanced game to me. The only fresh account is from the enemy Tiny and he was useless so most likely a legitimate new player.

Game 7454054583: You lose the lanes and early with Spectre, Weaver and Drow core + greedy sups vs an aggressive lineup and think they are smurfs? And you can see that they deserve to be in 1k bracket as they promptly managed to throw the game with 20k lead at min 25.

Game 7453344289: What about a game where you stomp them early, throw the lead and than manage to scrape a narrow win anyway makes you think you are playing against smurfs?

Game 7454498901: You got stomped. It happens.

None of the first three games where 1v9 or 2v8.

Game 7453825167: Axe carrying and the rest being alright.

Game 7454054583: Shaker and Dazzle performed really well. You did well too. The mid Weaver and offlane Drow were questionable.

Game 7453344289: Silencer and Shadow Demon did heavy lifting that game. Stratz actually considers you to be the least performing player when looked over the entire game.

Nothing seems to out of the ordinary. It appears you are overestimating your own ability and impact while underappreciating your teammates, especially your supports.

Downdate commented 11 months ago

Alright I won't play your EOMM anymore I hope others do it too.

It's pretty clear to me that it raises the difficulty by each game you win, especially for me that had a long break from the game.

You can keep saying it's a skill issue, keep in mind some of the players are actually developing AI in labs.

My sanity is worth more than this game.

BenjinZA commented 11 months ago

That's how match making works...

You win, you gain rating, you play in higher rated games.

You lose, you lose rating, you play in lower rated games.

What exactly are you saying is a bug?

If the thought of gaining and losing MMR stresses you, don't play ranked, Unranked is perfectly fine to play.

Downdate commented 11 months ago

25+ is not going to change the difficulty this much in 1k bracket because we are 1k trash as they say.