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Daily reminder that Low Priority games are subject to Overwatch thus making it impossible to leave #14088

Open NAlexP opened 7 months ago

NAlexP commented 7 months ago

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GangySVK commented 7 months ago

And why shouldnt they be exactly? You are so toxic you make it to low priority, you do not stop being toxic even there and then you are surprised you are not able to make it out, reporting it as a bug?

What kind of delusion is this?

NAlexP commented 7 months ago

And why shouldnt they be exactly? You are so toxic you make it to low priority, you do not stop being toxic even there and then you are surprised you are not able to make it out, reporting it as a bug?

What kind of delusion is this?

Are you new? It is a bug. Years ago they disabled reporting so this exact thing won't happen. Now, since they added AI to Overwatch, that thing went down the drain. Any clue as to why the devs that disabled reports did so? Maybe so one wouldn't get extra low prio? Also, the quality of low prio matches is garbage and the AI based system can and does throw false positives in that scenario. Why even train the AI on low prio? You think it's an average scenario? Do you use your brain to think or just your feelings?

PS: in your own thread about comms score you argue the system is fucked. What makes you think the system handling automatic Overwatch reports is any better?

GangySVK commented 7 months ago

No I am not new, I am responding to a post that has no description, only a vague and quite nonsensical title. The issue is with you describing the problem appropriately (to be literal, with you describing it at all) not with me being new.

Can you tell me exactly how are "AI false positives" relevant in a context of overwatch? Overwatch cases are decided by actual players, ergo humans, so any "AI false positives" are thrown to the trash. If you are in a low priority match (and boy, one has to be extra toxic to ever get there which is a quite clear red flag on its own) and you still grief to he point you are reported and subsequently marked as guilty by a real human via overwatch system, you are exactly where youre supposed to be and you will stay there until you understand that an online team-based game revolving around cooperation is not a venting tool for missed therapy session for you or anyone else.

You projecting "using feelings instead of a brain" onto me is just gold in this context, I must say.

PS: You are failing at the most basic logic, being unable to clearly differentiate between AI system and overwatch decisions. The whole point of overwatch is human supervision, which makes it the exact opposite to any AI system.

NAlexP commented 7 months ago

No I am not new, I am responding to a post that has no description, only a vague and quite nonsensical title. The issue is with you describing the problem appropriately (to be literal, with you describing it at all) not with me being new.

Can you tell me exactly how are "AI false positives" relevant in a context of overwatch? Overwatch cases are decided by actual players, ergo humans, so any "AI false positives" are thrown to the trash. If you are in a low priority match (and boy, one has to be extra toxic to ever get there which is a quite clear red flag on its own) and you still grief to he point you are reported and subsequently marked as guilty by a real human via overwatch system, you are exactly where youre supposed to be and you will stay there until you understand that an online team-based game revolving around cooperation is not a venting tool for missed therapy session for you or anyone else.

You projecting "using feelings instead of a brain" onto me is just gold in this context, I must say.

PS: You are failing at the most basic logic, being unable to clearly differentiate between AI system and overwatch decisions. The whole point of overwatch is human supervision, which makes it the exact opposite to any AI system.

Dude, click the tagged thread. Also, reports don't work in low priority, so "you are reported and subsequently marked as guilty" is simply a falsehood. It is a bug introduced with the overhaul of the behaviour system.

It is AI, and it's as simple as reading the blogpost about the update in behaviour score to figure as much. And it's poorly trained AI at that. Now, can we agree that someone that has no clue what he's talking about and is clueless enough to not be able to click a linked thread should have no place in the discussion?

NAlexP commented 7 months ago

No I am not new, I am responding to a post that has no description, only a vague and quite nonsensical title. The issue is with you describing the problem appropriately (to be literal, with you describing it at all) not with me being new.

Can you tell me exactly how are "AI false positives" relevant in a context of overwatch? Overwatch cases are decided by actual players, ergo humans, so any "AI false positives" are thrown to the trash. If you are in a low priority match (and boy, one has to be extra toxic to ever get there which is a quite clear red flag on its own) and you still grief to he point you are reported and subsequently marked as guilty by a real human via overwatch system, you are exactly where youre supposed to be and you will stay there until you understand that an online team-based game revolving around cooperation is not a venting tool for missed therapy session for you or anyone else.

You projecting "using feelings instead of a brain" onto me is just gold in this context, I must say.

PS: You are failing at the most basic logic, being unable to clearly differentiate between AI system and overwatch decisions. The whole point of overwatch is human supervision, which makes it the exact opposite to any AI system.

Here, to cater to your blind, stupid ass: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/13863 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/13863 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/13863 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/13863 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/13863 image

NAlexP commented 7 months ago

Let us all embrace the silence of a prideful idiot accepting he's been proven wrong.