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PLAYING WITH BOTS IN UNRANKED NORMAL MATCHES! #3453

Open mrrazia opened 1 year ago

mrrazia commented 1 year ago

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People still abusing sandbox/virtual box bots i just met 2 (maybe 3) people who did that. theres match on dotabuff https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/6778065498

BOTS ARE: in radint- natures prophet, pangolier and probably LC but im not sure about that Bots owners: BROODMOTHER100%, probably arc warden

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE in 2022? SHOULD THEY DO THAT FREE WITHOUT BAN? ALMOST EVERYDAY I HAVE MATCH LIKE THAT! like that we can all start doing it, why not?! who want keep getting games ruined match id:6778065498

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6778065498

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andrewsmithdesign commented 1 year ago

they'll keep being able to do it until they get banned – you're just one of the unlucky souls who had to verse them until they get weeded out by the system.

Draze22 commented 1 year ago

they'll keep being able to do it until they get banned – you're just one of the unlucky souls who had to verse them until they get weeded out by the system.

Since new accounts get a free month of Dota Plus all the troll has to do is make a new account which is extremely quick and easy. This problem cannot be adressed by the current system.

andrewsmithdesign commented 1 year ago

I don’t see how Dota Plus comes into it at all?

And I wouldn’t say it’s “extremely quick and easy” to make a new steam account. Sure it’s not hard, but it’s enough of a hassle that you wouldn’t want to do it every day. If you have a specific useful alternative or tweak to managing these users in mind, bring it forward I’m sure they would love to hear constructive feedback from you.

Each iteration of the “current system” will have flaws that need to be addressed; flaws which usually present themselves once abused.

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they'll keep being able to do it until they get banned – you're just one of the unlucky souls who had to verse them until they get weeded out by the system.

Since new accounts get a free month of Dota Plus all the troll has to do is make a new account which is extremely quick and easy. This problem cannot be adressed by the current system.

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Draze22 commented 1 year ago

I don’t see how Dota Plus comes into it at all?

Dota Plus members can instantly play custom games, otherwise the player creating the bots would have to play something like 30 hours of Dota first.

If you have a specific useful alternative or tweak to managing these users in mind, bring it forward I’m sure they would love to hear constructive feedback from you.

The option that causes the least issues imo is adding a penalty for failing to connect to custom games (specifically full custom game lobbies with more than 1 player and no password). A 5-10 minute escalating ban would be enough to drastically reduce the amount of time the bots can waste.

Also Valve need to change the custom game penalty for declining games to only apply to full custom game lobbies with more than 1 player and no password.

PabloMarchione commented 1 year ago

So sad to realize this, i was having some really bad teammates, like dazzle already 0/7 on 11 minutes, davion with madness farming on jungle totally abandoning the line, and im a super toxic player but this guys do not respond to any kind of comunication, not mic, not chat, not wheel-chat, not friendly or agresive aproach, it was really weird, then i start to google if there is a chance that this players will be bots, and found this and another treads on different forums, ffs!.