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[HL2DM][FeatureRequest] Make it FREE TO PLAY #1697

Open motherofgod opened 10 years ago

motherofgod commented 10 years ago

12321321 I'll show you some statistics from www.steamcharts.com. This statistics clearly shows us that in 2015/16/17 online in this game will be less than 50 players. This proves that the game must be made Free To Play, knowing policy Valve, you say that the game should payoff, but this is not a game like DoD, TF2 or CS: GO, is primarily a multiplayer mode, which has long ceased to be updated. I ask Valve to think about it or the game will come to desolation as Half-Life Deathmatch Source. 1 2

milkman12 commented 10 years ago

Awesome, it will sponsors loss players. Valve, please D:

Slayteg commented 10 years ago

Very very good idea <3

honmaru74 commented 10 years ago

i played this game for many years and i remember you could get the game for free. using the ati/nvidia gift. also, the game in some years ago works much better than actually hl2dm. why need to pay for a game that cause so much troubles? make it foor free, and us share the bugs :D

MrSchism commented 10 years ago

If I'm not mistaken, HL2DM is freely included in the source-sdk-2013 (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013)

The game isn't losing ground because it costs; is losing ground due to age and non-tracked gameplay.

Pricetx commented 10 years ago

I support this idea. It would help grow the player base somewhat, although I can't think of any comparable examples of where valve has made a game F2P before without some form of monetization scheme.

jora1 commented 10 years ago

Do something with the game, or rather let go hl3dm)

MrSchism commented 10 years ago

The game's are ten years old; there are other (more relevant) titles to put focus on.

Also, with the proliferation of low-power devices and Linux, selling low-requirement games for a low cost makes -sense-.

motherofgod commented 10 years ago

@MrSchism as jora1 says do something with this game. As I know its not Valve politics, as u sad Valve make and then forget about games? I thought you fixing old games engine, like u fixed cs1.6, hl1 and other, even in old engine already have fixes.

"If I'm not mistaken, HL2DM is freely included in the source-sdk-2013 (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013)" -There are nothing from SDK2013 in today HL2DM engine build. Or u mean (let the players themselves build new mod from old game)?

"The game isn't losing ground because it costs; is losing ground due to age and non-tracked gameplay." -The game losing ground because there are a lot of bugs, errors and old engine. Players trying to fix this game, trying to help Valve but nothing, I only want to know, what happens with old Valve policy.

"The game's are ten years old;there are other (more relevant) titles to put focus on." -Soo, this games are ten years old too but you updating them: Counter Strike, Counter Strike Source, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 1.

I'll make for you few screenshots from games (which have normal source engine) and HL2DM Source Engine.

Tabulation System (There is no player avatart, even cs has) 1111-1 111 Weapon HUD 111111 sd1

Wuldmaster commented 10 years ago

Just do it

YaLTeR commented 10 years ago

In my opinion HL2: DM is loosing players mostly due to a huge amount of bugs. When Valve set up this GitHub repository the players hoped that it was a way of reporting those bugs to developers. But it seems like most (if not all) HL2: DM issues are ignored. If one wants to have a good multiplayer experience they would rather buy CSS or something else because it's actually updated. And, as it was pointed out, Source SDK 2013 multiplayer code (which is free) pretty much contains HL2: DM entirely. I don't see a reason why HL2: DM should not be free to play to be honest.

trnoob commented 10 years ago

I think it's really good idea. Half-Life 2 DM is supported by players and pro community only. There are no Valve servers, only players, and it's not full game, only modification which based on Half-Life 2. And this game was free for all two or three years ago, don't understand why now players need to pay for it. As far as all we know, Valve wouldn't die if they make it free to play, all donations are coming from Dota 2 or CS:GO. If in this game would be only 50 players or less - then there is no sense to buy it.

jora1 commented 10 years ago

From 2004 hud in hl2dm didn't change. Player dont understand what bullets you picked and there is no alternative bullets icons in HUD. And there is no avatars in scoarboard and when someone talks in game. But in all orangebox games it displayed. I think when orangebox realesed , updates in hl2dm includes only new numbers in build engine version.

Kaked commented 10 years ago

I play hl2dm, and I'm a biggest cheater, I hope Valve will developed anticheat to catch my wallhack.

Jack-12 commented 10 years ago

Make it FREE AGAIN, please Valve, hl2dm truly need it.

gavvvr commented 10 years ago

I support anyone in this thread, everybody is right (except MrSchism). You either do anything with this game or make hl3dm. Bugs and cheaters (especially from pro community) makes people leave this game. True, Kaked, i wanna bust you! Making this game free won't add more troubles from cheaters already, because at the moment everyone can cheat and not get VAC banned.

mdl95r commented 10 years ago

I only!

edelveis commented 10 years ago

Good idea. Suppose again that will make this game free for owners of graphics cards NVIDIA and ATI.

Leya5 commented 10 years ago

Make it's free! -3

madmean1 commented 10 years ago

awesome good idea!!! Brick you are!

cheatbanned commented 10 years ago

good idea

Mashmash18 commented 10 years ago

I wanna see new players in game <3 Make hl2dm free for all aqehvw0m-im

rockandrebel commented 10 years ago

I waited a very long time to see this topic for making HL2DM Free To Play, Valve please hear our voice. It will save this game. omgomg

MrSchism commented 10 years ago

"The game's are ten years old;there are other (more relevant) titles to put focus on." -Soo, this games are ten years old too but you updating them: Counter Strike, Counter Strike Source, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 1.

They weren't updated; they were ported. They still cost, as well. It's not a matter of updating them; it's a matter of having no monetization option for it.

Want the game, but don't want to buy it? You can build it or buy it in a bundle with other games and write it off as free.

"If I'm not mistaken, HL2DM is freely included in the source-sdk-2013 (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013)" -There are nothing from SDK2013 in today HL2DM engine build. Or u mean (let the players themselves build new mod from old game)?

Check here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/tree/master/mp/game/mod_hl2mp

motherofgod commented 10 years ago

@MrSchism You don't want to fix (support) this game? Make it Free To Play. Nobody want to play alone, we payed for HL2DM, we keep servers in this game, we wanna see new players, we trying to make it normal again and wait about three years for normal update and you tell us that it is not actual to support this game anymore? How much we need to pay you for normal hl2dm update?

pumab commented 10 years ago

this used to be free , stay like that, gabe newell pls dont forget your masterpice's online part...

NanoVirus-zz commented 10 years ago

Very good idea, it's time to raise the game from his knees. Though it is full and different bugs. But this move will please all fans of this game.

P.S. I Sonic

mdl95r commented 10 years ago

Still it would be quite good to build in game statistics like with cs:go, tf2

newbiezip commented 10 years ago

Make this game free or fix it! Valve, you must care about your players!

PAshok-84 commented 10 years ago

good idea

Crakila commented 10 years ago

G'wan! You know you want to!

Slayteg commented 10 years ago

img_3803 Please <3

Tele42 commented 10 years ago

@motherofgod MrSchism is a community moderator, not a valve dev. There is nothing he can do about the work groups in Valve.

MrSchism commented 10 years ago

As @Tele42 said, I don't work for Valve; I simply work with them to moderate some issue trackers, help provide limited support, and attempt to keep the Steam for Linux group from getting out of hand.

ztony136 commented 10 years ago

please do so if free or kill me pls

MrThanatoz commented 10 years ago

HALF LIFE 2 DEATHMATCH FREEEEEE PLEASE D:

Jamori commented 10 years ago

Make it free to play for me for my cat for cat which cry near my window please

Adesa88 commented 10 years ago

My name is Sasha, I’am playing HL2DM about 5 years, I’am 20 years old and I’am female. I totally support Free To Play for Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. Every day, when I woke up I usually play little a bit in this game, about 2000 hours on my steam account. And every day I see that this game becomes empty. We need to let them know, that players are still remember about HL2DM. We need to save this game.

Allower commented 10 years ago

I think so we all really want supply this ticket, Half-Life is amazing game story by years, but other series about this game, is dead... So Valve please read this suggestion and save you'r game!

We all need Half-Life 2 MP (Deathmatch) with more new players! And you Valve gets new peoples on Steam!

Tank's for attention, i big fan of Valve Games! And good luck guys in this petition.

joshsmit commented 10 years ago

Hope it will be free. This game amazing. FTP for HL2DM :>

TriceRaptor commented 10 years ago

That's an abandoned great game, unfortunately, it's too late make it [tf+stridermod+hl2ctf] but it worth for FreetoPlay, because i will play it with other new players that don't get it yet and we will enjoy it!!

FreeSlave commented 10 years ago

Make it free.

edelveis commented 10 years ago

Ну что, перепись нищесбродов завершена? :)

YaLTeR commented 10 years ago

Да тут у половины она куплена.

edelveis commented 10 years ago

Ну может быть конечно, но всё равно... она так сейчас мало стоит, что обычно идёт в догрузку к контре и прочим шалостям :) Так что не обижайтесь, я просто пошутил насчёт нищесбродов. [sarcasm on] А ведь гейблушке надо кормить себя, что бы вдруг не похудеть :) Так что надейтесь посоны что он сейчас сел на диету :) [sarcasm off]

lolipop666 commented 10 years ago

Всеми руками и ногами за эту идею. All my arms and legs, and my axe for this idea XD

Kaked commented 10 years ago

edelveis you first niwesbrod

gtamike commented 10 years ago

Yeah make it happen :+1: free_2_play

ovosh commented 10 years ago

HL2DM FREE FOR ALL :3 1361258937

aplhaSensei commented 10 years ago

Let it die a valiant, perfectly natural death.

Yandex22 commented 10 years ago

Play button should look like this qwerqwer