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Source 1 based games such as TF2 and Counter-Strike: Source
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[HL:S] Glock 17 alt-fire doesn't work while underwater #2987

Open Yetoo1 opened 4 years ago

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago

Glock 17 alt-fire doesn't work while underwater. In goldsrc it does work.

HL:S Version: Build Label: 5377866 # Uniquely identifies each build Network PatchVersion: 5377866 # Determines client and server compatibility Protocol version: 24 # High level network protocol version

System info here: https://web.archive.org/web/20191207232514/https://pastebin.com/qJ5SPXg3

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago

https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Glock_17

The rapid-fire mode cannot be utilized when underwater.

Well, I tested goldsrc and Glock 17 alt-fire was able to fire underwater. It's either a bug with Half-Life or the fan page is incorrect.

Koterminus commented 4 years ago

@1157 The Fandom version of the wiki is outdated and unmoderated, I would take anything said there with a massive grain of salt. Use the Combine OverWiki instead.

I just tested this issue and @Yetoo1 is right, in Half-Life 1 the Glock 17 can be fired underwater with the alt-fire button in both singleplayer and multiplayer, but in Half-Life: Source it cannot.

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago

I have a Sierra disk version of Half-Life that I can verify on, but it's going to take a bit for me to find it.

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago

The page is correct.

Why is the page correct?

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago
  1. Where does it specifically say in the links that you provided that Half-Life: Source can't fire alt-fire underwater? Before you say that it was linked from the Half-Life: Source page and therefore must be an article for the Half-Life: Source pistol (which it isn't), can you find me a Wikia entry for the Glock 17 just for the Half-Life game within that fandom site?
  2. With that code and context, you have affirmed my findings that that alt-fire does work in the original Half-Life.
  3. I tested pistol alt-fire underwater with the following version of Half-Life: 
    Build 742
Exe: 15:02:21 Nov 5 1998

    Which is Version 1.0.

I can confirm alt-fire does work underwater in this first official release build of Half-Life.

Yetoo1 commented 4 years ago

So the fandom page must be wrong and must clarify which version of the game it doesn't work with due to it being a bug.

1157 commented 4 years ago

Yes you are correct your 21 year old non-Source half-life copy glock does alt-fire underwater, Ever thought that maybe is was removed with the Source version.Happy issue reporting.

Koterminus commented 4 years ago

There's no reason for this feature to be missing from the Source version, so it should be added in (or fixed, if it existed in an earlier build and was broken or removed by a later update).