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Outdated Nvidia Drivers? #457

Open ekianjo opened 8 years ago

ekianjo commented 8 years ago

It seems like the Nvidia drivers by default in SteamOS Brewmaster (2.49) are severely behind the latest ones now. I started playing Dying Light a couple of days ago, and while it shows compatibility with SteamOS there is a critical bug (lip-syncing not working at all) in order versions of the nVidia drivers, such as the SteamOS ones.

Could you ensure we are up-to-date on nVidia drivers, since it can impact the compatibility of recently released games ?

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

What drivers are installed on your SteamOS system? What drivers would you like installed On 6 Jan 2016 15:19, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

It seems like the Nvidia drivers by default in SteamOS are severely behind the latest ones now I started playing Dying Light a couple of days ago, and while it shows compatibility with SteamOS there is a critical bug (lip-syncing not working at all) in order versions of the nVidia drivers, such as the SteamOS ones

Could you ensure we are up-to-date on nVidia drivers, since it can impact the compatibility of recently released games ?

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

The default drivers from 2.49 in SteamOS are already pretty old. 352 I think.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Isn't that pretty recent? On 6 Jan 2016 15:28, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

The default drivers from 2.49 in SteamOS are already pretty old. 352 I think.

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mdeguzis commented 8 years ago

Roughly August of last year if its 352.xx

Ryochan7 commented 8 years ago

The nvidia driver in Brewmaster 2.49 is version 352.55. Release Date: 2015/10/14.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/92826/en-us

ekianjo commented 8 years ago

So yeah, it's NOT recent at all. There's been two major versions at least since then (latest one came yesterday).

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

I think those are beta releases are they not? On 6 Jan 2016 17:02, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

So yeah, it's NOT recent at all. There's been two versions since then (latest one came yesterday).

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

Nope of course not. Those are stable releases.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Maybe they haven't tested yet in SteamOS. They usually delay drivers for a short while On 6 Jan 2016 17:09, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

Nope of course not. Those are stable releases.

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/898762/unix-graphics-announcements-and-news/linux-solaris-and-freebsd-driver-358-16/

358.16 was released a while ago and is not beta at all.

"testing on SteamOS" means nothing. It it works on other distro there's no reason it should not work on a Debian-based SteamOS distro.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Doesn't mean you can't test first On 6 Jan 2016 17:12, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/898762/unix-graphics-announcements-and-news/linux-solaris-and-freebsd-driver-358-16/

358.16 was released a while ago and is not beta at all.

"testing on SteamOS" means nothing. It it works on other distro there's no reason it should not work on a Debian-based SteamOS distro.

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

Well tests are fine but it should not take 3 months. I'm pretty sure they can run automated tests nowadays.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Well 2 OS updates ago they updated drivers. It's only been one update where they didn't do driver updates. On 6 Jan 2016 17:20, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

Well tests are fine but it should not take 3 months. I'm pretty sure they can run automated tests nowadays.

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Ryochan7 commented 8 years ago

The latest release from the Long Lived Branch is 352.63 and it looks like that is the default driver that is recommended by Nvidia for Linux users. For the time being, it looks like if you want a driver from the Short Lived Branch or beta then you will have to install it yourself.

ekianjo commented 8 years ago

@Ryochan7 Sorry but this is nonsense. The latest ports for SteamOS Require at least 355.x - look at Alien:Isolation which supports SteamOS - the recommended minimum specs are below:

OS: Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, SteamOS Processor: 2.6GHz Intel i3 or equivalent Memory: 4 GB RAM Graphics: Nvidia 6xx series (driver version: 355.11) Storage: 35 GB available space

355.11 as minimum, why can't we have at least this kind of minimum required drivers for recent ports on SteamOS ? The same goes for GRID Autosport. We are running those games on drivers that are NOT supported by porters.

Can we stop pretending it's OK ?

Ryochan7 commented 8 years ago

I was merely presenting information. In that case, hopefully an update to driver version 358.16 will come down the pipe in the near future.

ekianjo commented 8 years ago

I am fine not to have the latest drivers, but at least SteamOS should follow the requirements of the latest AAA titles ported. If not it's just pretty bad practice for people who want to play their games at the right performance and without specific older-drivers bugs.

Plagman commented 8 years ago

They were regressions with newer drivers that were preventing us from upgrading; we are looking to move to the 361 series as soon as it stabilizes.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Awesome! @ekianjo I think it would be best to close this issue

ekianjo commented 8 years ago

2.60 is out and still had 352.x drivers, I don't see why I should close that issue at that point. The outdated drivers are still used until they are not. I hope we get another update with 361 soon.

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

They said they are moving forward soon. Don't worry On 18 Jan 2016 04:41, "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

2.60 is out and still had 352.x drivers, I don't see why I should close that issue at that point. The outdated drivers are still used until they are not. I hope we get another update with 361 soon.

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Plagman commented 8 years ago

We're still testing the 361 series for regressions; if none are found, we'll release the first non-Beta 361.x driver as soon as it becomes available.

balu92 commented 8 years ago

It's been out of beta for 2,5 weeks. Have you found any regressions, or? http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/98373

JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

Brewmaster_beta update 2.64 has updated Nidia graphics.

If all is well these will get pushed to brewmaster stable On 27 Feb 2016 11:05 p.m., "balu92" notifications@github.com wrote:

It's been out of beta for 2,5 weeks. Have you found any regressions, or? http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/98373

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

Ok, but when does it make it out of beta ?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:03 PM, joshua notifications@github.com wrote:

Brewmaster_beta update 2.64 has updated Nidia graphics.

If all is well these will get pushed to brewmaster stable On 27 Feb 2016 11:05 p.m., "balu92" notifications@github.com wrote:

It's been out of beta for 2,5 weeks. Have you found any regressions, or? http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/98373

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JoshuaMurphynz commented 8 years ago

You can get brewmaster_beta right now.

It usually takes about 2 weeks or so to go from brewmaster_beta to stable. On 28 Feb 2016 12:22 a.m., "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

Ok, but when does it make it out of beta ?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:03 PM, joshua notifications@github.com wrote:

Brewmaster_beta update 2.64 has updated Nidia graphics.

If all is well these will get pushed to brewmaster stable On 27 Feb 2016 11:05 p.m., "balu92" notifications@github.com wrote:

It's been out of beta for 2,5 weeks. Have you found any regressions, or? http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/98373

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ekianjo commented 8 years ago

Thanks, how do you convert from the stable to the beta version ?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:28 PM, joshua notifications@github.com wrote:

You can get brewmaster_beta right now.

It usually takes about 2 weeks or so to go from brewmaster_beta to stable. On 28 Feb 2016 12:22 a.m., "ekianjo" notifications@github.com wrote:

Ok, but when does it make it out of beta ?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:03 PM, joshua notifications@github.com wrote:

Brewmaster_beta update 2.64 has updated Nidia graphics.

If all is well these will get pushed to brewmaster stable On 27 Feb 2016 11:05 p.m., "balu92" notifications@github.com wrote:

It's been out of beta for 2,5 weeks. Have you found any regressions, or? http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/98373

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mdeguzis commented 8 years ago

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamOS/wiki/Opting-into-SteamOS-Beta

mdiluz commented 8 years ago

FWIW the beta branch now has 367.27

mdeguzis commented 8 years ago

Of note, I try my best to keep these versions up to date in the table:

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamOS/wiki/Getting-Started#gpu