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[BUG] Bomb going inside entities #301

Open MPNumB opened 11 years ago

MPNumB commented 11 years ago

Bomb can go into map entities, if was planted on top of a player, and player managed to move up a bit on an entity he was standing at previously. Here's a video example I found on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxBccOKPtc

Fix idea: make bomb solid type non solid for players, and players non solid for the bomb.

MaximilianKohler commented 11 years ago

Also the bomb can be accidentally dropped in various crevices and get stuck ie: under the truck in T spawn on de_nuke, under the front of bomb trains on de_train. Maybe if the bomb's hitbox was enlarged it would help it bounce off objects more often as well as lessening the distance you would have to be from the bomb in order to pick it up.

zootziq commented 11 years ago

@MaximilianKohler i don't see any problem here. just need to be careful with the bomb))) But seriously it will change the gameplay too. bad idea.

MaximilianKohler commented 11 years ago

How would it change the gameplay other than to decrease the amount of times the bomb gets stuck either by accident or by some kid deciding they want to ruin the game for everyone else in the server?

It would only be a part of the gameplay if CTs were able to pick up the bomb(then hide it) - which they aren't.

zootziq commented 11 years ago

@MaximilianKohler think about cw or mix games. people very used to it.

MaximilianKohler commented 11 years ago

cw? People are very used to having the bomb unreachable and that's a good thing? What good does having the bomb get stuck add to the game? If it happened in a scrim/match it basically destroys the round... The whole game for the Ts revolves around planting the bomb.

I think being able to pick it up with the use key when you're a certain distance from it would be a good idea.

hotactions commented 11 years ago

@MPNumB its already fixed tested with 5956

MPNumB commented 11 years ago

Just tested it out. Nope, it's still working. Also it seems I cannot update hlds to the newest beta for some reason (my hlds is 5956, and not 5961). Were all fixes client-side?

ghost commented 11 years ago

I thought hlds is no longer supported and you need to switch to steamcmd o.O

johndrinkwater commented 11 years ago

You do, steamcmd is required for these new half-life server updates

MPNumB commented 11 years ago

HLDS: Half-Life Dedicated Server HLDS Update Tool: Tool that used to download/update HLDS. SteamCMD: New tool that downloads/updates HLDS.

I was using SteamCMD (not HLDS Update Tool) to download a dedicated server program which is called HLDS.

ghost commented 11 years ago

Alright read it wrong then ^^

MaximilianKohler commented 11 years ago

Alfred, not sure how you'd feel about this but I think it would cool if you contacted the hltv.org admins and ran a poll on the website regarding whether or not to enable picking up the bomb from a certain distance with the +use key. I mention hltv.org because it's the largest competitive gaming community as far as I know, but it might even be preferable to host the poll somewhere on steam and I'm sure the hltv.org admins would link to it and that would work the same.

I've been playing competitively on a high level for 8+ years and I can't think of any problems with this solution for the bomb being stuck but since it's a pretty large change submitting it to the community as a poll question seems like a good way to go about it.