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9 years ago @schoof I disagree with what you say, and the reason is simple. I installed windows 7 on purpose (I had windows 8) to be able to run CS 1.6 NON-Steam. Result? I have the exact same problems that I have the Steam version.
NON-STEAM version runs only slightly better, but on balance the movements, the recoil of the weapons is still busted.
You're probably right that STEAM has to do something, but it is not the only cause. If it were so, then how do you explain that many users do not have these problems?
I think that is closely related to the configuration of the PC and that few details could play a key role, as in the case of audio.
Why I came to the conclusion that something has to do the audio? Simple, whenever I introduced changes to the process hl.exe setting its priorities from low to real-time I noticed improvements in gameplay but deterioration in audio as noise, pop, crack, etc .. I therefore inferred that the audio brings a significant load to the CPU, not so much as sheer power demand but apparently as response time in ms. So I focused on this problem looking for a workaround.
Obviously I posted here because I try on github feedback from you about what I say, my theory is to be demonstrated, but at least to me .. at the moment seems to work well! I do not hide that I fear it's just a passing cloud but excluding all the cause and cooperate we can find a valid solution.
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finally got it fixed: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/387#issuecomment-249436648
UPDATE: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/387#issuecomment-90850841
its going to be a long post so bear with me :o)
everytime i install cs it only runs normal like i it should when i start it the first time. after playing it for a while my cs starts to run "slower" and the game reacts strange. what i mean by that is that everything ingame doesnt run as fast/smooth as it should, everything feels choppy!
for example movement, when i try to bunnyhop or russianwalk it just doenst feel right and everything is so much harder to do. even when only strafing left and right i see and feel a noticeable delay from my input and when the game reacts to it! same for shooting, when i spray or even try to tap (single shoots) the shoots feel "heavy", i cant shoot as fast as i normally would and i have to take much bigger pauses between shooting! the consequence is that your weapon recoil is just not right and really hard to control! the screen shaking animation when shooting is also much bigger (especially spraying but you also see it when just shooting single shots). same for awp, when i quickscope its much harder to do because its slower and it just doesnt feel right, after every shot it feels like you are glued to the ground or get pulled to the ground. you can even see it on the animation of your weapons or the screen does when shooting (up and down shaking). for me it looks like the animation doesnt get played correctly from the beginning to the end, it feels choppy.
to sum it up: it feels like the game itself is initiliazed correctly only right after the first start and afterwards not anymore!
im having this problem for a while now, it started in 2009 when i started to play cs again after a long break (been playing cs since 1.0 so im no newbie in regard to cs and now how it should run). i tested different pcs, internetconnections, settings etc. nothing helped. i tested it on different pcs from friends who had the same problem and some of them didnt even know it because they only started to play cs recently and didnt have a comparison to how cs should run. after showing them the difference when starting it the first time again or the methods mentioned below they also could see the difference! i even started to test other cs versions (non steam and older version pre 1.6/steam) and guess what... the problem isnt there, the gameplay runs AND stays like it should! so i think the source of the problem is sth in regard to the steam client itself! so i decided to start my steam client in offline mode and suddenly my cs runs normal like it should!!!
if you arent an experienced cs player (or havent played the other cs versions that run normal) theres a possibility you are so used to this bad gameplay because you have no comparison and/or are have played so long with it! i have seen this phenomenon again and again with people!
how i run the test (create a new game so you have the same conditions every time and can test the gameplay): i would reinstall cs (very time consuming and annoying), or (much easier to do) just delete my cs folder so it gets created again after i start it (doenst work anymore because since cs got updated the gcf files are gone and the cs files are stored in the common folder!). or third method, i would try to crash the hl.exe by doing the following: create new game, open video options and change the gamma or brightness slider! now the game needs to restart and most of the time i would get a hl.exe crash window! when i now restart cs it runs normal like the first time right after installation! sadly this trick only worked for me one time since these updates (when trying to enable the low video mode ingame). i guess sometimes fixing bugs is not that good if they helped you to fight other bugs haha!
i would REALLY appreciate it if you would look into this matter seriously because there are a lot of people that are affected by this problem! if you have questions im willing to help in any form possible (i dont think my hardware specs matter because it happens on different pcs like i mentioned above), because i and many others have spent a lot of time trying to fix it!
p.s.: i think that not only is cs 1.6 affected by this problem but also other goldsrc and even source games (css, cspromod etc)!
tl;dr: not only source engine games have this problem, all games on steam suffer from micro-stutter, unsmooth and delayed inputs, the same games without steam run fine! --> culprit steam client!?!?
EDIT: see my latest post and edits in regard to this topic: its not connected to the source engine but to the steam client itself!