[HL1/DMC/Ricochet] Add game source code to the repo

[Triang3l]

Please add HL SDK 2.3 source code from this pull request, so it would be easier to download the source for mods and to show error locations.

[TheBombOCat]

Agreed. Would be kinda useful.

[dtugend]

Does it include the patches that the one from Metamod has?: http://metamod.sourceforge.net/files/sdk/

[Triang3l]

No, why? This is the original code from SDK 2.3.

[Mailaender]

Would be of great help to port third-party mods if you could release a version SDK 2.4 with some hints on cross-platform support.

[Mailaender]

@SiPlus The README at http://metamod.sourceforge.net/files/sdk/ says that flori also added patches by Valve that they introduced without releasing a new version. He also silenced many compiler warnings so he can spot breakages in his own code more easily.

[tschumann]

Agreed too. However, it would be more useful to have some updated code rather than 10 year old code. Besides the fact it doesn't compile in the latest version of Visual Studio without a few changes, there have been a number of changes like those mentioned by @Mailaender.

[sRaH]

Agreed! :+1:

[MrSchism]

If I saw any SDK source on here, I'd want it straight from Valve, to be honest.

[johndrinkwater]

An ex. natural selection dev. has said this would benefit him resurrecting their mod for the new platforms http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/comment/2102913/#Comment_2103125

[joropito]

Any update? Is there any plan to release an updated hlsdk?

[MrSchism]

Honestly, I'd like to see the SDKs get their own repos set up by Valve.

[Triang3l]

MrSchism, why? For full SDK, yes. But for only the source, no. The repository is called "halflife", so Half-Life source code would be very appropriate here.

[Triang3l]

(response to deleted comment: `Clarify: would you want Half-Life source

development kit here or Half-Life source code here, @SiPlus`)

Half-Life source code. The development kit is over 100 mb compressed and over 500 mb uncompressed. There's no point of having it here (instead, a download link to a site like Gamefront can be placed in README.md), only breaking clones on computers with bad Internet connection. But the

source is useful for showing bug locations in issues.

Also, it would be great if Valve releases their current source code here (also for CS, DoD, TFC, maybe OF and BS and updated Ricochet and DMC), so modders can have official fixes and can build for Linux (but since HL1 DLLs don't use precompiled static libraries, I think this is already possible, however an official release would be better).

[Mailaender]

Git can handle https://github.com/torvalds/linux so don't worry about the Half-Life SDK being too big and a 100 MB download is not much nowadays.

[Triang3l]

Linux source code is text, text diffs are much easier to handle for Git than binary diffs. A 100mb download is A LOT, 3G connection is still popular. And uploading 100mb zip kills the point of the source code browser (and also makes text-based .qc and .smd files binary), while the browse-able uncompressed version is 500 or 600 megabytes in size.

[Mailaender]

This pull request does not seem to contain any .zip nor binaries.

[Triang3l]

Because it contains only ~10mb of source code. I was talking about the full SDK with models and tools.

[Mailaender]

Those can be served via Steam. Who needs models and tools in a source code management system.

[Triang3l]

Oh yes, great idea. But it should be "SDK 2.4", not SDK 2.3, with Source SDK-like launcher, "Hammer 3.6" with different useful things from Source SDK Hammer, with all map sources (HL1 maps cannot be decompiled, unlike Source maps) and the beta Gluon Gun textures from the first Half-Life SDK version ever. Sadly, Hammer is closed-source, so we can't make an improvised pull request for it.

[Mailaender]

Old versions of https://github.com/TTimo/GtkRadiant should support Half-Life 1 if GoldSrc Hammer is not maintained anymore by Valve.

[Triang3l]

Radiant is completely different in terms of UI.

[Triang3l]

So you uploaded Source SDK. Now how about merging this?

[Freeman-AM]

Please, can we get CS 1.6 czero, TFC, DoD source code ?

[Triang3l]

That would be more than awesome. But Valve also hasn't released CS:S, CS:GO, DoD:S, L4D, L4D2, Portal, Portal 2 and TF2 source code (although CS:S, DoD:S, Portal and TF2 code was leaked).

ThreeWave CTF (leaked in 2003 alongside HL2) source code would be great as well (the leaked client DLL doesn't work at all, and I have incorrect HUD and lags with grappling hook due to lack of prediction).

[Mailaender]

In fact they have https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013 see http://store.steampowered.com/news/10962/

[Triang3l]

There are no CS:S, DoD:S, Portal and TF2 sources in the repo.

So, Valve, why not release the sources officially now? They're easily available on the Internet (even though they're for Source 2007, not 2013), you'll lose nothing if you upload them.

It's hard to keep TF2 sources up to date, however, because things are constantly added to the game. CS:S sources are not easy to release too because Hidden Path contributed to them. But there shouldn't be any issue with Portal and DoD:S.

[ghost]

@SiPlus SDK is a tool to build your own MODS for existing games. No one will release complete source code of proprietary software (games). Also, I bet downloading leaked source code is illegal. Think yourself. If you want, you can buy games and build mods using Source SDK, nothing else. In addition, they're using proprietary software, like MP3 playback, Bink video, Miles sound system, their own anti-cheat system. It will cost money to release source code without violating licenses. And you don't have such amount of money. If you want, you can licence Source engine. http://source.valvesoftware.com/licensing.php

[Triang3l]

@MaxKorz SDK at this point allows to build your own mods for existing games called Half-Life 2, HL2: Deathmatch, HL2: Episode One and HL2: Episode Two. I'd like it to allow to build your own mods for existing games called Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source, Portal and Team Fortress 2.

MP3, Bink Video, Miles Sound System and VAC are implemented in the engine itself, not the games. I'm not asking Valve to release the engine sources, I'm asking Valve to release client.dll and server.dll sources for the games above.

[ghost]

@SiPlus In fact, they're not even going to release source code for new games:

Left 4 Dead Authoring Tools Left 4 Dead 2 Authoring Tools Portal 2 Authoring Tools Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Authoring Tools

"Authoring Tools" means that source code is not provided

but they're working on how the authoring tools are distributed for the following games: Team Fortress 2 Counter-Strike: Source Day of Defeat: Source Half-Life: Deathmatch

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SDK_Installation#Authoring_tools_currently_shipped_as_beta_with_their_respective_games

I think you can't expect anything more

[Triang3l]

I know, but L4D, P2 and CS:GO sources are not available to public in any form, while older games' sources have been leaked. And they were always available to modders with Steamworks support.

[Freeman-AM]

We don't really care about anti cheat, sound miles system and so on. But seriously if we can have a partial source code for cs 1.6, it would be awesome for module and amxmodx coders.

[xPaw]

@alfred-valve What about CS source code? ;)

[alfred-valve]

Nope, ain't gonna do that.

[xPaw]

Aww, here's a :cake: anyway.

[ericwomer]

The cake is a lie.

[Triang3l]

@alfred-valve Because of being outdated?

EDITED:

Oh, so you added the code. Nice! Thanks. :cake: for you!

[joropito]

Just for reference, what's the release version of the submited hlsdk?

Before this we where working with hlsdk-2.3

Thanks

[Triang3l]

@joropito The currently used cross-platform version.

[alfred-valve]

There is no version, it is just the "head" of the HL1 SDK currently. If you must call it 2.4, but 2.4 will keep evolving. Maybe I should pull some git checksum and use that as a version ;-)

[Triang3l]

2.4.13.8.31, maybe?

[ericwomer]

2.4.12.8.32? HL3 Confirmed!

[Triang3l]

2.4 2013.08.31.