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VickiLanger / code-questions-bot

A Twitter bot who tweets code questions and trivia
https://vickilanger.github.io/code-questions-bot/
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Verbiage for Inclusion and Safety #11

Open VickiLanger opened 4 years ago

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

I have these questions set up for the bot to ask, but I've commented most out. I don't want them to inadvertently hurt people. If you fit into these groups of people, please help.

Goals:

Need help with:

    'What badass ladies are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
    # 'What badass dudes are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
    # 'What badass trans* peeps are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em \nnote: do not out someone who isn't out',
    # 'What badass POC are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
    # 'What badass underrepresented peeps are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',

_If you'd like to help but prefer to be more private, DM on Twitter Vicki_Langer or email me at vickilanger@hotmail.com

achasveachas commented 4 years ago

I'm pretty sure the last one should be fine.

The second and third to last one I'll wait for POC and/or trans folks to weigh in.

As for the first commented out one I see why that might be seen as reinforcing tech stereotypes. Maybe substitute "dudes" for "allies"?

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

Thanks for your input!

The second and third to last one I'll wait for POC and/or trans folks to weigh in.

Yeah, I’m hoping someone will assist and weigh in with their ideas.

As for the first commented out one I see why that might be seen as reinforcing tech stereotypes. Maybe substitute "dudes" for "allies"?

I can see that. I do like that idea.

achasveachas commented 4 years ago

Perhaps changing "trans" to "queer" would make it sound more inclusive and less like it's specifically "targeting" trans folks?

(With the added benefit that you get suggestions for more awesome queer folks 😊)

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

Perhaps changing "trans" to "queer" would make it sound more inclusive and less like it's specifically "targeting" trans folks?

(With the added benefit that you get suggestions for more awesome queer folks 😊)

Yes! Thank you for that. I was trying to figure out a way to be non-target-y, yet inclusive. I like that it can now be more inclusive than it was. Also, I wouldn't want trans* people to feel like they couldn't be included in other questions.

Here's the adjusted questions:

'What badass ladies are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',  # includes anyone cis, trans*, femme presenting, not femme presenting
'What badass queer/LGBTQIA peeps are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em \nnote: do not out someone who isn't out',
'What badass LGBTQIA allies are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
# 'What badass POC are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
# 'What badass underrepresented peeps are you following that everyone else should follow? \nWhy? \nTag \'em',
am1983 commented 4 years ago

I definitely think the bot should ask folks about people of color they follow - but I would caution against using POC as a blanket statement for non-white folks. How about being more specific?

"What bad ass Black folks are you following that everyone else should follow? Why? Tag 'em." "What bad ass Latinx folks are you following that everyone else should follow? Why? Tag 'em."

(This list is not all-inclusive and is just an example of how you might handle the situation.)

Using a blanket "POC" could be seen as a form of erasure. This is just my two cents on the subject. I welcome correction if my approach is problematic.

Sharondio commented 4 years ago

-ladies +women

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

I definitely think the bot should ask folks about people of color they follow - but I would caution against using POC as a blanket statement for non-white folks. How about being more specific?

"What bad ass Black folks are you following that everyone else should follow? Why? Tag 'em." "What bad ass Latinx folks are you following that everyone else should follow? Why? Tag 'em."

(This list is not all-inclusive and is just an example of how you might handle the situation.)

Using a blanket "POC" could be seen as a form of erasure. This is just my two cents on the subject. I welcome correction if my approach is problematic.

Thank you, I like your idea to separate and give more exposure to more different groups. I completely agree. I felt like it was making it too generic and didn't like it.

Though, I am worried I would miss a group and I don't want to do that.

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

-ladies +women

Done. I made the change. May I ask why I should use "women" over "ladies"?

Sharondio commented 4 years ago

"Ladies" is a designation based largely on cultural norms. Women is what we are.

VickiLanger commented 4 years ago

"Ladies" is a designation based largely on cultural norms. Women is what we are.

Thanks. Very good point. When writing it I hadn't thought of it that way.