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Request: Add sample weighting #25

Closed AMChalkie closed 9 years ago

AMChalkie commented 9 years ago

It would be awesome to have sample weighting as an option on the fly.

genomematt commented 9 years ago

I second that. Weighting should be considered an essential step.

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drpowell commented 9 years ago

Using manually specified weights? Or, something else?

AMChalkie commented 9 years ago

I'm thinking:

Nucleic Acids Res. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25925576# 2015 Apr

  1. pii: gkv412. [Epub ahead of print] Why weight? Modelling sample and observational level variability improves power in RNA-seq analyses. Liu R http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Liu%20R%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 1, Holik AZ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Holik%20AZ%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 2, Su S http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Su%20S%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 1, Jansz N http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Jansz%20N%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 3, Chen K http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Chen%20K%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 3, Leong HS http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Leong%20HS%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 3, Blewitt ME http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Blewitt%20ME%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 3, Asselin-Labat ML http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Asselin-Labat%20ML%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 2, Smyth GK http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Smyth%20GK%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576 4, Ritchie ME http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Ritchie%20ME%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=25925576
  2. Author information http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25925576# Abstract

Variations in sample quality are frequently encountered in small RNA-sequencing experiments, and pose a major challenge in a differential expression analysis. Removal of high variation samples reduces noise, but at a cost of reducing power, thus limiting our ability to detect biologically meaningful changes. Similarly, retaining these samples in the analysis may not reveal any statistically significant changes due to the higher noise level. A compromise is to use all available data, but to down-weight the observations from more variable samples. We describe a statistical approach that facilitates this by modelling heterogeneity at both the sample and observational levels as part of the differential expression analysis. At the sample level this is achieved by fitting a log-linear variance model that includes common sample-specific or group-specific parameters that are shared between genes. The estimated sample variance factors are then converted to weights and combined with observational level weights obtained from the mean-variance relationship of the log-counts-per-million using 'voom'. A comprehensive analysis involving both simulations and experimental RNA-sequencing data demonstrates that this strategy leads to a universally more powerful analysis and fewer false discoveries when compared to conventional approaches. This methodology has wide application and is implemented in the open-source 'limma' package.

© The Author(s) 2015. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of Nucleic Acids Research.

On 21 July 2015 at 16:18, David Powell notifications@github.com wrote:

Using manually specified weights? Or, something else?

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drpowell commented 9 years ago

Ahh, right - I recall Matt's talk at ABiC last year.

genomematt commented 9 years ago

You also missed my VLSCI 'how my collaborators got it wrong due to one outlier' talk

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Ahh, right - I recall Matt's talk at ABiC last year.

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drpowell commented 9 years ago

My invite must have got lost in the mail ;)

drpowell commented 9 years ago

Added 0a811f0fac5ec5edca0ed13a4f1e5e4d6b62c595. Still need to add bargraph of inferred sample weights