Scripting Problem

[emperorstarfinder]

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Hi all the next question. The problem with the moving objects on the servers of OpenSim and second life scripts work fine, but on WhiteCoreSim and the virtual Universe. See for yourself, and so many scripts are not working. And I tried many different, not exactly the same. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaDaGo3gCQM&feature=youtu.be

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Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS

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1.0.2

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Note: This bug initially reported by LifeGold via WhiteCore-Sim: https://github.com/WhiteCoreSim/WhiteCore-Dev/issues/213

WhiteCore-Sim has placed this on hold in concurrance for the time being. However LifeGold claims this issue exists in Virtual Universe as well.

[BritanyannStarfinder]

Morning,

I reviewed the issue indicated here in Issue #60 and the corresponding issue reported at: https://github.com/WhiteCoreSim/WhiteCore-Dev/issues/213

Additionally I have reviewed the video provided by LifeGold as part of my review.

Findings:

It is a well known and established fact that Upstream Provider WhiteCore-Sim uses the very old and well outdated DotNetEngine as its scripting engine. This is because when Aurora-Sim was created initially DotNetEngine was the scripting engine used by Opensimulator. Opensimulator has sense upgraded their engine to their new XEngine which while it to has problems is much more stable then DotNetEngine. Virtual Universe has inherited this from the Upstream provider unfortunately.

It is also well known that there are many problems with DotNetEngine itself, which has never been something the Second Galaxy Development Team has denied or rejected.

That being said, in reviewing the video from LifeGold and reviewing the information @EmperorStarfinder has provided via our team's internal tracker I am inclined to agree that initial review of the video itself would appear to suggest an issue with the script itself and not the script engine. With that said there are some semantics going on with the scripting engine itself that I really would not be surprised if they are causing some issues as well.

However because the plan is to have the new scripting engine in place prior to the release of Virtual Universe Version 1.0.3 RC1 I am inclined to decline correcting this in DotNetEngine (if there is in fact a problem with vehicle scripts) as the DotNetEngine will be removed as the scripting engine upon successful replacement by the new engine.

You can watch developments of new features of Virtual Universe at: https://github.com/Virtual-Universe/Virtual-Dev and even help test as well which does help the team track down bugs.

Recommendation: Decline to fix in favor of new engine.

EDIT: I did forget to state that both Upstream Provider WhiteCore-Sim and Virtual Universe have done updates to the DotNetEngine, however my recommendation does still stand as eventually DotNetEngine is just going to be more and more of a problem to maintain which is why Opensimulator replaced it with XEngine.

Britanyann Starfinder Core Developer Scripting Engine Developer Work Group Member Grid Architecture Development Work Group Second Galaxy Development Team

[BritanyannStarfinder]

Fix declined in favor of https://github.com/Virtual-Universe/Virtual-Dev/issues/8

[LifeGold]

And you are not going to go to XEngine or DotNetEngine will. And when will approximately release the virtual Universe version 1.0.3 and RC1?

[BritanyannStarfinder]

Hi LifeGold,

XEngine is the scripting engine used by Opensimulator. We will be replacing our current scripting engine with an upgraded state of the art engine that will handle scripting more efficiently then it does currently. However it will not be a version of Opensimulator's XEngine.

I cannot say what the plans of the Upstream Provider is as far as their scripting engine though I am told it is on their TODO list as well.

RC1 means Release Candidate 1. This generally is released a few months before the official release. This is done to allow our larger user community to kick the tires as it were and test the new version that we are about to release. This helps us find bugs and get them fixed faster so our actual release will be much more stable. The development and release schedule for Virtual Universe Version 1.0.3 can be found in the readme for the Virtual-Dev repository.

The Virtual-Dev repository is the development repository and is ahead of the main Virtual-Universe repository. If you are running a production grade grid using Virtual Universe we strongly encourage you to use the stable code in this repository here. This is because the development level code may not always be stable.

Britanyann Starfinder Core Developer Scripting Engine Developer Work Group Member Grid Architecture Development Work Group Second Galaxy Development Team

[LifeGold]

As I understand Korda released version 1.0.3 will need to install everything new since 1.0.2 it is not working, is there some patch or something like that for those who use version 1.0.2. Explain why this is, I have online about 1000+ people who are now playing on the server. I would not like after the release of 1.0.3 to demolish and put in a new one.

Translated with Google translator.

[BritanyannStarfinder]

Hi LifeGold,

Virtual Universe Stable Release is currently Virtual Universe 1.0.2.1. Virtual Universe Version 1.0.3 will not be out until next year per the schedule on the Virtual-Dev repository. When the time comes to upgrade production grids to Virtual Universe Version 1.0.3 upgrading will not affect the users on your grid. We are unaware of problems with people using Virtual Universe and upgrading the versions where it would affect the users on their grid. However when the time comes for upgrading grids using Virtual Universe our development team members are always able to assist as needed to get your grid upgraded and fully functional.

Britanyann Starfinder Core Developer Scripting Engine Developer Work Group Member Grid Architecture Development Work Group Second Galaxy Development Team