Open AgFlore opened 4 years ago
Are the roles (titles) fixed/consistent, or can they be whatever? Does the upload select the role from a predefined list or is it free form text?
Are the roles (titles) fixed/consistent, or can they be whatever? Does the upload select the role from a predefined list or is it free form text?
So far the roles can be only selected from a predefined list. Currently it reads: "作词" (lyricist), "作曲" (composer), "编曲" (arranger), "演唱" (vocal), "混音" (mixing), "曲绘" (illustrator), "后期" (post-production), "视频制作" (animator), "调校" (tuning), "参演" (starring), "填词" (lyricist for changed-lyrics-covering), "配音" (dubbing), "调音" (voice tuning for Jinriki vocaloids or MAD videos), "剪辑" (video clipping), "演奏" (instrumentalist), "母带" (mastering), "字幕" (subtitles) and "策划" (director/initiator).
List of role names: | Bilibili | VocaDB |
---|---|---|
"作词" (lyricist) | Lyricist | |
"作曲" (composer) | Composer | |
"编曲" (arranger) | Arranger | |
"演唱" (vocal) | Vocalist | |
"混音" (mixing) | Mixer | |
"曲绘" (illustrator) | Illustrator | |
"后期" (post-production) | N/A | |
"视频制作" (animator) | Animator | |
"调校" (tuning) | N/A | |
"参演" (starring) | N/A | |
"填词" (lyricist for changed-lyrics-covering) | N/A | |
"配音" (dubbing) | N/A | |
"调音" (voice tuning for Jinriki vocaloids or MAD videos) | N/A | |
"剪辑" (video clipping) | N/A | |
"演奏" (instrumentalist) | Instrumentalist | |
"母带" (mastering) | Mastering | |
"字幕" (subtitles) | N/A | |
"策划" (director/initiator) | N/A | |
N/A | Distributor | |
N/A | Other | |
"UP主" (video uploader) | Publisher | |
N/A | Vocal data provider | |
N/A | Voice manipulator |
List of role names: Bilibili VocaDB "作词" (lyricist) Lyricist "作曲" (composer) Composer "编曲" (arranger) Arranger "演唱" (vocal) Vocalist "混音" (mixing) Mixer "曲绘" (illustrator) Illustrator "后期" (post-production) N/A "视频制作" (animator) Animator "调校" (tuning) N/A
This one can be listed as Voice Manipulator soundly by definition I think.
"参演" (starring) N/A "填词" (lyricist for changed-lyrics-covering) N/A
And this can also be listed as Lyricist right?
"配音" (dubbing) N/A "调音" (voice tuning for Jinriki vocaloids or MAD videos) N/A
This one is also OK to be taken as voice manipulator.
"剪辑" (video clipping) N/A
Would we consider tagging this also as the animator?
"演奏" (instrumentalist) Instrumentalist "母带" (mastering) Mastering "字幕" (subtitles) N/A "策划" (director/initiator) N/A
Can this be the publisher as well?
N/A Distributor N/A Other "UP主" (video uploader) Publisher N/A Vocal data provider N/A Voice manipulator
I noticed that VocaDB already has a feature that is very similar to this, MikuDbAlbumImporter and MikuDbAlbumService. They can import albums from MikuDB and add artists and songs automatically. We have a dedicated page for processing those imported albums. Do we need to have a dedicated page like this for Bilibili to credit artists automatically with respective roles? Any thoughts?
I noticed that VocaDB already has a feature that is very similar to this, MikuDbAlbumImporter and MikuDbAlbumService. They can import albums from MikuDB and add artists and songs automatically. We have a dedicated page for processing those imported albums. Do we need to have a dedicated page like this for Bilibili to credit artists automatically with respective roles? Any thoughts?
Sure it would be better if one can manually check whether all the credits are correct right in the Create-song page. The layout can be like the artists column in the song edit page, with one change-role (and perhaps the collaborative tickbox) button for each artist added.
But it'll be ok to me to leave the checkstep to the edit stage as it is now, the system just tags the artists' roles silently when the song is added, and the editor further verifies and modifies the roles tagged in the entry editing page.
From 2019 Bilibili has introduced a new feature, allowing producers to credit every staff member's profile (in terms of their Bilibili user id) in the video metadata. They are marked directly in the metadata as composers, tuners, singers, mixers, illustrators, animators etc. It would be great convenience if vocaDB can make use of that information and credit artists automatically with respective roles when adding songs.
The crediting information is available from the new API mentioned in VocaDB/vocadb#571 . Take https://vocadb.net/S/274579 (https://www.bilibili.com/video/av94664782) as an example. Access
https://api.bilibili.com/x/web-interface/view?aid=94664782
and one get:In the
owner
part of the response, we see "katsu-Lee" is the one who uploaded the video, and is currently grabbed as the producer by VocaDB when adding the song. If you scroll down and check thestaff
part, you can see all the staff credited for making this video. In this case, "katsu-Lee" is credited with thetitle
"UP主" (video uploader, maybe the publisher on vocaDB), while "赭柚奶" is credited with thetitle
"作词" (lyricist), "白凉Nitram" the "视频制作" (animator), "流绪绪绪" the "调校" (voice manipulator) and "瓷小鱼" the "曲绘" (illustrator). It would be great convenience if all these roles can be automatically credited.