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source_id registration of VRESM #101

Closed fengelbrecht closed 5 years ago

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago
label = VRESM1.0
source_id = VRESM1.0
institution_id = CSIR-CSIRO
release_year = 2016

label_extended = ACCESS 1.0 
aerosol = Rotstayn
atmosphere = VCAM
atmospheric_chemistry = None
land_ice = None
land_surface = CABLE
ocean = VCOM 
ocean_biogeochemistry = PISCES
sea_ice = CSIR-ICE 
durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht due to limitations in the DRS structures being used, we'll need to change your entry to:

label = VRESM 1.0
source_id = VRESM-1-0
institution_id = CSIR-CSIRO
release_year = 2016
label_extended = VRESM 1.0 (ACCESS 1.0)
aerosol = Rotstayn
atmosphere = VCAM
atmospheric_chemistry = None
land_ice = None
land_surface = CABLE
ocean = VCOM
ocean_biogeochemistry = PISCES
sea_ice = CSIR-ICE

Is this a suitable amendment?

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Please change

label_extended = VRESM 1.0 (ACCESS 1.0)

to

label_extended = VRESM 1.0

Otherwise, the changes are in order, thank you.

Francois

"Paul J. Durack" notifications@github.com 27/10/2016 20:01 >>> @fengelbrecht ( https://github.com/fengelbrecht) due to limitations in the DRS structures being used, we'll need to change your entry to: label = VRESM 1.0 source_id = VRESM-1-0 institution_id = CSIR-CSIRO release_year = 2016 label_extended = VRESM 1.0 (ACCESS 1.0) aerosol = Rotstayn atmosphere = VCAM atmospheric_chemistry = None land_ice = None land_surface = CABLE ocean = VCOM ocean_biogeochemistry = PISCES sea_ice = CSIR-ICE Is this a suitable amendment? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub ( https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/issues/101#issuecomment-256722423) , or mute the thread ( https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AWCK4l3HGcUEIHNYdqdtlA0CS4g32bUCks5q4ObkgaJpZM4KimQM) .

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht just to confirm, the label_extended field can be verbose and allows for the contributor to provide any information that they want to include - for that reason you could amend this as a verbose description of the model configuration/origin/adaptation - it's up to you what it contains.

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Thank you Paul (?), I'm new in the business. I thought of adding some details later, but as far as "label-extend" goes, it can be extended to

label_extended = VRESM 1.0 (Variable-resolution Earth System Model 1.0)

Francois

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht no problems, these fields can be amended in the future however once data is being written we request that no changes are made.

I'll process the final versions as agreed above

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Thank you, much appreciated! I have noted the restrictions on naming conventions once data has been delivered. Will definitely be making some changes over the next coupled of months, in consultation with our partners at CSIRO, as we finalize the model configuration.

Francois

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht I am just trying to finalise this now, do you have some additional information that you wanted to add in below (specified by # entries below - sample text in () are taken from the CMIP5 contributing model ACCESS-1-0)?

        "VRESM-1-0":{
            "aerosol":"Rotstayn", # Is there a version number or further info
            "atmosphere":"VCAM", # Is there additional information available i.e (r1.1; 192 x 145 N96; 38 levels; top level 39255m) or similar?
            "land_surface":"CABLE", # Is there a version number or further info
            "ocean":"VCOM", # is there additional information available i.e (MOM4p1; tripolar primarily 1deg latitude/longitude; 50 levels; top grid cell 0-10m)
            "ocean_biogeochemistry":"PISCES", # Is there a version number or further info
            "sea_ice":"CSIR-ICE", # Is there a version number or further info
},
durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht any chance you can provide an answer to my query above?

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Hi Paul

I can now indeed provide some further details the entries you specified, the updated details are:

"aerosol":"Rotstayn-1.0"

"atmosphere":"VCAM-1.0", (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top level 35km)

"land_surface":"CABLE v2.2.3"

"ocean":"VCOM-1.0", # (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels, z coordinate)

"ocean_biogeochemistry":"PISCES v3.4socco "

"sea_ice":"CSIR-ICE", # (visco-plastic)

Please let me know if further info is required at this point in time, Francois

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht perfect, I'll get this model registered later today.. We can always tweak later on if details need revising - thanks!

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Wonderful, much appreciated Paul!

Francois

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht you should now have VRESM-1-0 listed in the latest source_id file.

Once last clarification that I had, you've listed the ocean model as:

"ocean":"VCOM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels, z coordinate)",

My intention was to capture what the top model level was in the last entry here - many models have a top grid cell that extends from 0-10 m and is normally reported at 5 m, I wonder what your VCMO-1.0 configuration is?

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

that's great, thanks Paul!

Yes, we have exactly that conventional set-up. First grid-cell extends from 0-10 m. We solve the hydrostatic Boussinesq equations with a free surface.

So perhaps closer to the description you are looking for is:

"ocean":"VCOM-1.0", (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels, top grid cell 0-10m)

Francois

"Paul J. Durack" notifications@github.com 17/11/2016 01:24 >>> @fengelbrecht ( https://github.com/fengelbrecht) you should now have VRESM-1-0 listed in the latest source_id file ( https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/blob/master/CMIP6_source_id.json#L63-L82) . Once last clarification that I had, you've listed the ocean model as: "ocean":"VCOM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels, z coordinate)", My intention was to capture what the top model level was in the last entry here - many models have a top grid cell that extends from 0-10 m and is normally reported at 5 m, I wonder what your VCMO-1.0 configuration is? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub ( https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/issues/101#issuecomment-261105691) , or mute the thread ( https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AWCK4i6xC4GebHB0x909sKVlxmQipEB-ks5q-5C4gaJpZM4KimQM) .

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht ok great, I will tweak..

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

thanks!

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht please review the VRESM-1-0 entry in CMIP6_source_id.html for accuracy, and if any revisions are required please reopen and detail the amendments in this issue

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht we've amended the information that we're collecting about models and require some additional information from you, the values below need some revision or new information - I've noted ### some text ### below where information needs revising between the # symbols, or links to the information sources for new fields:

"VRESM-1-0":{
  "activity_participation":[
    "" ### See activity list at https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/blob/master/CMIP6_activity_id.json ###
  ],
  "atmosphere":"VCAM-1.0 (###192 x 192 x 6 C192; 192 x 192 longitude/latitude###; 35 levels; top level 35 km)",
  "nominal_resolution_aerosol":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "nominal_resolution_atmos":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "nominal_resolution_land":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "nominal_resolution_ocean":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "nominal_resolution_oceanBgchem":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "nominal_resolution_seaIce":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ###
  "ocean":"VCOM-1.0 (###192 x 192 x 6 C192, 192 x 192 longitude/latitude###; 35 levels; top grid cell 0-10 m)",
}
durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht have you had a chance to obtain the additional information requested above?

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Hi Paul

I haven't... but have just started to. Apologies - I was quite busy around the financial year-end at CSIR, and currently travelling in Namibia - where internet access is generally bad!

I will try to answer the questions over the weekend - latest will be on Monday, the 24th.

Francois

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fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Hi Paul

Regarding the 6th equest below:

"ocean":"VCOM-1.0 (###192 x 192 x 6 C192, 192 x 192 longitude/latitude###; 35 levels; top grid cell 0-10 m)",}

Does "longitude/latitude refer to the model's native grid, that is, the grid on which it solves its equations? If so, it is not correct, since we use a particular type of cubic grid. Or does it refer to the output grid?

The details are that we are using an equi-angular gnomonic-cubic grid, obtained by projecting a grid set-up on the 6 panels of a cube onto the sphere. The short-way to describe the resolution is "C192". It means that on each of the 35 levels there are 192x192x6 grid points.

We are indeed set-up to provide output on the latitude-longitude grids recommended by CMIP6.

Can you please give me further guidance on how to modify request 6 below? Perhaps "longitude/latitude should be replaced by "equi-angular gnomonic-cubic", unless "longitude/latitude refers to the post-processed outputs.

Francois

"Paul J. Durack" notifications@github.com 07/04/2017 02:08 >>> @fengelbrecht ( https://github.com/fengelbrecht) we've amended the information that we're collecting about models and require some additional information from you, the values below need some revision or new information - I've noted ### some text ### below where information needs revising between the # symbols, or links to the information sources for new fields: "VRESM-1-0":{ "activity_participation":[ "" ### See activity list at https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/blob/master/CMIP6_activity_id.json

], "atmosphere":"VCAM-1.0 (###192 x 192 x 6 C192; 192 x 192

longitude/latitude###; 35 levels; top level 35 km)", "nominal_resolution_atmos":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ### "nominal_resolution_landIce":"", ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ### "nominal_resolution_ocean":"",

See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl ### "ocean":"VCOM-1.0

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht good question, I think we can augment the information to capture all of this. So I have attempted to update the entry that we have below with your provided info, we'll still need the details indicated with ### notation below. Is the resolution of your atmospheric and ocean component really identical?:

"VRESM-1-0":
"activity_participation":[
   "" ### See activity list at https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/blob/master/CMIP6_activity_id.json
],
"cohort":[
   "Registered"
],
"institution_id":[
   "CSIR-CSIRO"
],
"label":"VRESM 1.0",
"label_extended":"VRESM 1.0 (Variable-resolution Earth System Model 1.0)",
"model_component":
"aerosol":
   "description":"Rotstayn-1.0",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl (likely same at atmos below)
"atmos":
   "description":"VCAM-1.0 (###C192; Equi-angular 6 panel gnomonic-cubic grid, each panel comprises 192 x 192 cells; 1152 x 1152 longitude/latitude; 35 levels; top level 35 km###)",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl
"atmosChem":
   "description":"none",
   "nominal_resolution":"none"
"land":
   "description":"CABLE v2.2.3",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl
"landIce":
   "description":"none",
   "nominal_resolution":"none"
"ocean":
   "description":"VCOM-1.0 (###C192; Equi-angular 6 panel gnomonic-cubic grid, each panel comprises 192 x 192 cells; 1152 x 1152 longitude/latitude; 35 levels; top grid cell 0-10 m)",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl
"ocnBgchem":
   "description":"PISCES v3.4socco",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl
"seaIce":
   "description":"CSIR-ICE (visco-plastic)",
   "nominal_resolution":"" ### See Appendix 2 in https://goo.gl/v1drZl
"release_year":"2016",
"source_id":"VRESM-1-0"

And to answer the second question, all reported resolution/grid info is for the native model grid (gn).

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht have you had any luck collecting the information requested above?

davidhassell commented 7 years ago

Hello,

My name is David Hassell and I am part of the ES-DOC team that is working on CMIP6 documentation. As a part of this process, we need a liaison at CSIR-CSIRO who can act as the interface between the scientists who actually provide the documentation and the ES-DOC team. I was wondering if you are able to help with identifying such a person?

The documentation process has changed considerably since CMIP5 (in response to the feedback that we received), and you can now choose from a variety of documentation methods. Our aim is to train the ES-DOC liaison who can then work with people at CSIR-CSIRO. No specialist knowledge about ES-DOC nor climate modelling is required, but neither would it be a problem, of course. Some institutes have appointed a member of the modelling team, others not.

I would be very grateful f you could let me know by e-mail (david.hassell at ncas.ac.uk) if you have any suggestions.

All the best,

David Hassell

National Centre for Atmospheric Science University of Reading UK

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht have you had any luck collecting the information requested above?

fengelbrecht commented 7 years ago

Hi Paul

Indeed, yes! I'll respond tomorrow (15th) or else on the 16th.

Francois

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durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht great, looking forward to closing this standing issue..

Regarding the atmos description for in particular, it would be great to augment this so it more explicitly describes the model configuration, so the standing VCAM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top level 35km) becomes VCAM-1.0 (Cubic-conformal with 6 cube faces 192 x 192 x 6 C192 and high resolution over South Africa??; 35 levels; top level 35km) or similar

There are other examples found in the CMIP6_source_id.html, some include for BNU-ESM-1-1 the ocean description is primarily 1deg latitude/longitude, down to 1/3deg within 30deg of the equatorial tropics; 360 x 200 longitude/latitude;, and in the case of an unstructured or alternative grid, AWI-CM-1-0-HR includes the following for the model ocean FESOM 1.4 (unstructured grid in the horizontal with 1306775 wet nodes..

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht have you had any luck getting these details finalised?

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht have you had any luck getting these details finalised?

durack1 commented 7 years ago

@fengelbrecht it would be great to close this issue with updated entries - let me know when you'll be able to get to this

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht it would be great to close this issue with updated entries - let me know when you'll be able to get to this

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht it would be great to close this issue with updated entries - let me know when you'll be able to get to this

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

Dear Paul

I have sent the info about two months ago, to the best of my knowledge! I will retrieve that communication over the weekend as pass it on again.

Francois

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durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht I have no record of receiving those details, so please do send them again. It'd be great to update and finalize the registration info for VRESM-1-0, what we have currently is this. We need values for all "" blank entries below.

        "VRESM-1-0":{
            "activity_participation":[
                ""
            ],
            "cohort":[
                "Registered"
            ],
            "institution_id":[
                "CSIR-CSIRO"
            ],
            "label":"VRESM 1.0",
            "label_extended":"VRESM 1.0 (Variable-resolution Earth System Model 1.0)",
            "model_component":{
                "aerosol":{
                    "description":"Rotstayn-1.0",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                },
                "atmos":{
                    "description":"VCAM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top level 35km)",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                },
                "atmosChem":{
                    "description":"none",
                    "nominal_resolution":"none"
                },
                "land":{
                    "description":"CABLE v2.2.3",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                },
                "landIce":{
                    "description":"none",
                    "nominal_resolution":"none"
                },
                "ocean":{
                    "description":"VCOM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top grid cell 0-10m)",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                },
                "ocnBgchem":{
                    "description":"PISCES v3.4socco",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                },
                "seaIce":{
                    "description":"CSIR-ICE (visco-plastic)",
                    "nominal_resolution":""
                }
            },
            "release_year":"2016",
            "source_id":"VRESM-1-0"
}
durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht a ping to send through those final details, thanks!

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht a ping to send through those final details, thanks!

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht apologies for nagging, but here's yet another ping to send through those final details, thanks!

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht what are the chances that we could update this entry and close out the issue early in 2018?

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht this issue has been open for well over 6 months, and it would be great to get the details updated, finalized and close this issue

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht the partial registration of VRESM-1-0 is causing some problems with our consistency checks. For this reason I plan to de-register this model and close this issue, and we can reopen this issue when the final details are available, and re-register the complete details.

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

Please do not deregister Paul!

I'll respond tonight - will first need to find those questions again...

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durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht no problem, I'll wait for new content overnight, but if this is not received by late tomorrow I'll have to proceed with the deregistration so we can fully implement these tests

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

Hi Paul

Apologies again for the delay with this. Below follows my responses. If some of these are not in the correct format, please let me know and I will respond immediately.

Francois

    "VRESM-1-0":{
        "activity_participation":[
            "DECK, ScenarioMIP, HighResMIP, PMIP, DAMIP"
        ],
        "cohort":[
            "Registered"
        ],
        "institution_id":[
            "CSIR-CSIRO"
        ],
        "label":"VRESM 1.0",
        "label_extended":"VRESM 1.0 (Variable-resolution Earth System Model 1.0)",
        "model_component":{
            "aerosol":{
                "description":"Rotstayn-1.0",
                "nominal_resolution":"50 km"
            },
            "atmos":{
                "description":"VCAM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top level 35km)",
                "nominal_resolution":"50 km"
            },
            "atmosChem":{
                "description":"none",
                "nominal_resolution":"none"
            },
            "land":{
                "description":"CABLE v2.2.3",
                "nominal_resolution":"50 km"
            },
            "landIce":{
                "description":"none",
                "nominal_resolution":"none"
            },
            "ocean":{
                "description":"VCOM-1.0 (384 x 384 x 6 C192; 35 levels; top grid cell 0-10m)",
                "nominal_resolution":"25 km"
            },
            "ocnBgchem":{
                "description":"PISCES v3.4socco",
                "nominal_resolution":"25 km"
            },
            "seaIce":{
                "description":"CSIR-ICE (visco-plastic)",
                "nominal_resolution":"25 km"
            }
        },
        "release_year":"2016",
        "source_id":"VRESM-1-0"

}

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

I hope this completes the query! I have specified those nominal resolutions in km, rather than degrees, since the grid is quasi-uniform.

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

Hi Paul - I'm on standby if you require further information.

Francois

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht thanks for this VRESM-1-0 is now registered, please review the details at CMIP6_source_id.html and let me know if any further edits are required.

jypeter commented 6 years ago

@durack1 @fengelbrecht at some point the ocean grid description went from a) VCOM-1.0 (192 x 192 x 6 C192 to b) VCOM-1.0 (384 x 384 x 6 C192

Which one is correct? if b) is correct, should you use C384instead of C192?

fengelbrecht commented 6 years ago

Hi Jean-Yves

Thank you for pointing this out, indeed it looks like an inconsistency that has slipped in. Our scaling analysis indicates that we will be able to run the ocean model at C384 resoltion (6 panels on the cube with 384x384 points per panel projected onto the sphere). This provides about 25 km quasi-uniform resolution in the horizontal to the ocean model VCOM.

So the latest description should be: VCOM-1.0 (384 x 384 x 6 C384).

Francois

Jean-Yves Peterschmitt notifications@github.com 05/04/2018 10:52

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durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht there was some discussion about how a cubic conformal model should be identified, with this discussion found at https://github.com/WCRP-CMIP/CMIP6_CVs/issues/507#issuecomment-378664084 - considering this, did you want to update your identifiers for VRESM-1-0?

durack1 commented 6 years ago

Reopening this issue, as some description tweaks are likely required

durack1 commented 6 years ago

@fengelbrecht I'll close this due to lack of response. We can always amend these details in the future