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9.3 想说的话 #12

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Wangmengguo commented 2 months ago

人类价值观的核心一直没有改变,追求「真善美」的本质是,追求社会「认可」。所有影视作品中的「爽感」多源于此,弱者的正义被声张,作恶者多行不义必自毙,强者保护弱者的权利,行善者终有回报。

这些价值观根治在人类社会,又通过更好的指导人类生存,而逐渐融入群体成为整个社会的共识。

在中国的现代价值体系中,资本主义是奢靡的代名词,是西方列强掠夺其他国家的罪证。但事实上,人类追求自由平等的价值观,由资本主义体现无疑。

这种「价值观」本质上是「真善美」的体现,是推动人类更好生存的一种共识。

很久没有听「不明白」播客,其中不乏对其长期「唱衰」中国的论调有所厌倦,也有换个观点观察中国的想法。但今天兜兜转转又重新开始听,才发现现代中国的价值体系,已经逐步矛盾。

核心就体现在价值观是体现「某个人」的意志,还是体现「国家」的意志。

这个问题非常重要,当顶层设计无法适配中国大部分人的价值观,这就意味着某种极权统治。

这个人已被体制绑架,而体制又完全由其掌控。这种危险的倾向正在逐步扩散,当中共无法确保经济高速增长时,他的执政根基是否会动摇。

或者说,经济发展与其「执政」基础并无因果关系,当下的体制正在走向更深层次的「混乱」之中,而作为屋子里的大象,却无人敢言。

Wangmengguo commented 2 months ago

Claude 3.5 Sonent

Human values remain constant. Seeking "truth, goodness, beauty" means seeking social approval. Media's satisfaction comes from this. Justice for the weak prevails. Evildoers fall. The strong protect the weak. Good deeds are rewarded.

These values are ingrained in society. They guide human survival and become social consensus.

In modern China, capitalism symbolizes excess and Western exploitation. But capitalism embodies human pursuit of freedom and equality.

This value system reflects "truth, goodness, beauty". It's a consensus for better human survival.

The "Buminbai" podcast often criticizes China. But China's value system is becoming contradictory.

The core issue: Do values reflect an individual's will or the state's?

This matters. If top-down design mismatches most people's values, it suggests authoritarianism.

The leader is trapped by the system he controls. This dangerous trend spreads. If economic growth slows, will the party's rule waver?

Or is economic growth unrelated to their rule? The current system heads towards deeper chaos. It's the elephant in the room no one dares mention.

Wangmengguo commented 2 months ago

ChatGPT 4o

Here’s your translation, Dearing:


The core of human values has never changed. The essence of pursuing "truth, goodness, and beauty" is seeking "recognition" from society. The sense of satisfaction in most films stems from this: the weak find justice, evildoers meet their downfall, the strong protect the rights of the weak, and those who do good are eventually rewarded.

These values are rooted in human society and, by guiding human survival, gradually become a shared consensus within the community.

In China's modern value system, capitalism is often seen as synonymous with extravagance and as evidence of Western powers exploiting other nations. However, the pursuit of freedom and equality is undoubtedly reflected in capitalist values.

This "value system" essentially reflects "truth, goodness, and beauty," serving as a consensus that promotes better human survival.

I haven’t listened to the "Unexplainable" podcast in a long time. Part of the reason was fatigue from its long-standing pessimism about China, but also a desire to see China from a different perspective. Yet today, after coming back to it, I realize that modern China’s value system has become increasingly contradictory.

The core issue lies in whether values reflect the will of an "individual" or that of the "state."

This is a crucial question. When the top-level design no longer aligns with the values of most Chinese people, it suggests a form of authoritarian rule.

This individual has been bound by the system, and yet the system is entirely controlled by him. This dangerous trend is slowly spreading. When the Communist Party can no longer ensure rapid economic growth, will its ruling foundation be shaken?

Or perhaps, economic development and its "ruling" foundation are not causally related. The current system is heading towards deeper "chaos," and yet the elephant in the room remains unspoken.