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Command the forces of The Project in a battle to rebuild the world after mankind has been nearly destroyed by nuclear missiles. A 100% free and open source real-time strategy game for Windows, macOS, Linux, BSD+
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Some defensive suggestions. (I am French, sorry for the translation) #2358

Open Maitreyarck opened 2 years ago

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

Good evening, would it be possible in the next update to install diagonal walls? It would be interesting to have some additions on the defense in relation to the walls (for example, thicker walls, thus more difficult to destroy), doors and turrets at long distances, to build a fort on long games. I would like to complain about the pacifism system which is too redundant in games with friends where we play for fun, can you add it as an option before starting a game? With my friends we have another suggestion regarding your bots, it would be interesting a bot that builds walls, because your bots only make units to send them to us, it lacks life or realism. Finally we would like to see maps that are more adaptable to Ultimate Scavengers and for empty categories, like the 7 player maps, or the 9 player maps where there is only one map. The mods on your site are too old or obsolete for version 0.4.2 (for example, the advanced base, or the Ultimate Scavengers).

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

I add some suggestions if it could interest the developers of Warzone 2100 while respecting the universe of the game.

- In the multiplayer menu where you set the bots, the place, the colors, the teams as well as the faction (the appearance of your structures), it would be very convenient to save some parameters that you could predefine, in order to avoid redoing everything at the next game and so on.

- The color flags before starting a game have aged, colors like yellow and orange look a bit too similar, the "red" flag doesn't have a bright enough color (still before starting a game), and then the gray flag looks too much like the white color, which is rather confusing in retrospect.

- Every time the game is updated, each player's progress (rank) is reset, would it be possible to have a communicated way to save our activity progression on the game?

- I read in the previous suggestions the possibility to see the life bar of our opponents, I'm not especially for it, but to find a compromise, it would be fair to add this advantage to the advanced search. To give an example, searches related to radars to see the life bar of nearby enemies only.


At the beginning of the month, I plan to sponsor Warzone 2100 20$ per month, because I've been playing the game since the PS1 and I'd like to see the game evolve with more content.

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

As promised I'm sponsoring Warzone 2100, hoping that it helps despite the little I can give. Please take my suggestions seriously if it helps the development of the game. I have other ideas in mind, but ideally I'd rather take it a step at a time to avoid stifling the developers.

gantsevdenis commented 2 years ago

Hi, first of all thanks for donations, this will definitely help to cover operating costs Also, I think you should join the discord server https://discord.gg/Q2FhUbjZ, it has special "suggestion" and "suggestion-discussion" channels (among many others). There are many more people there than on here github

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

I've already been on the Discord server but being French I don't understand correctly, so I often get lost. Then I like to write here, it's less stressful, especially since it allows me to see my own suggestions. Unless you really want me to copy and paste my suggestions? Because I can do that, well if it helps the developers, I don't mind.

gantsevdenis commented 2 years ago

As a side note, maybe we should have general french chat too. There are many french speakers, so you definitely won't be alone

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

I read it on the Discord server, I thank you for your support, it is very kind of you.

Iluvalar commented 2 years ago

Bonjour Maitreyarck -You can choose your default favorite color in the settings -Your rank are in /multiplay/players/ -Yellow was added to allow more then 8 players a few years ago, choosing good recognizable colors is hard. -I agree with the HP of the units, but did you know each of your tanks have an AI which analyze the hp of every unit. They consider the distance, they consider the propulsion of the enemy, meaning your machine gun units will prefer shooting on cyborgs and tank killer on tanks. They will consider joining for with another teammate around. And they are all clairvoyant ! Meaning they know in advance if a rocket in the air will hit their target or they are better shooting another one. You can trust your units to take a decent decision in the thick of the fight even if you will often disagree with their choice.

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

Bonsoir Ivuvalar,

Don't forget my other suggestions, like vertical walls, etc. By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to point out a slight problem that I've detected during my games. When you do a search, it's possible to find out about the technology thanks to the information from previous searches, but it doesn't go beyond 4 small pages and it's difficult for me to know what most of the advanced technologies are used for. So it would be nice to put more pages or to add all the information about the game technologies on the main menu to learn how to use the game correctly. Just for the nexus it took me years to understand that it can parasitize an enemy tank to steal it, so imagine the rest, the CB radar I don't know what it's for, the DCA I took a long time to know that it's an air weapon, etc.

Now that I know that it is possible to share suggestions with you, I will not hesitate to offer you some to improve the game but also to propose solutions to facilitate your thinking. If I can contribute something other than my money, I will do my best to add little pebbles to my favorite game.

Lupus-Mechanicus commented 2 years ago

Bonsoir @Maitreyarck ! :wave:

Thank you for supporting the game!

I've already been on the Discord server but being French I don't understand correctly, so I often get lost. Then I like to write here, it's less stressful, especially since it allows me to see my own suggestions.

I've talked to Pastdue [the owner of the server], and he said that when he'll get back to his pc, and with the courtesy of some free time [crazy week for everyone], he'll add the text channel.

I have other ideas in mind, but ideally I'd rather take it a step at a time to avoid stifling the developers.

Hehe, I was the same with the Music Manager at first, then somehow it got into the game, just like that. :laughing:

By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to point out a slight problem that I've detected during my games. When you do a search, it's possible to find out about the technology thanks to the information from previous searches, but it doesn't go beyond 4 small pages and it's difficult for me to know what most of the advanced technologies are used for. So it would be nice to put more pages or to add all the information about the game technologies on the main menu to learn how to use the game correctly.

A slider option or some more buttons to that particular window most likely would make this quite functional. :thinking: Maybe @KJeff01 or @past-due [once he's got some free time] can do it. Or

If I can contribute something other than my money, I will do my best to add little pebbles to my favorite game.

You know... I said the very same thing when I joined the community... Little did I knew that I would get this far. So, don't worry, each little pebble will go a long way in paving and expanding this gem of ours, mon ami. :+1:

Cheers! :partying_face:

Iluvalar commented 2 years ago

Just so there is no misunderstanding, I'm a very low level developer. I'm just responsible for some mortars doing spectacular misses shots once in a while, the 2.3.6 balance patch which made the green body viable and my own mod NRS.

Most of your suggestions are very reasonable but there is no guaranty if let alone when a coder will have the motivation to do those particular changes.

The diagonal walls would be by far the most time consuming suggestion of the bunch, there is no guarantee that the community as a whole will want it as we used to be able to move diagonally between the walls. Then it would need a 3d artist to first do them. That suggestion could take a long time to materialize...

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

Oh Lupus, are you the musician? I'm the French guy who comments on the Warzone 2100 Youtube channel, I'm glad to see you here. For the written lounge, there is no worry, I am patient.

Iluvalar, I obviously took into account that volunteers might not be able to do big coding and the effort it requires, that's why I'm content with modifications or "possible" additions for the game.

For the vertical walls if it's possible it would be nice, in the idea I would like more costal walls so that the defense in the game is more important because as I wrote before the game lacks cruelly of defensive aspect, the only defense in the game is the attack as the bunkers or the long range weapons as the hellstorms. If all this is not possible... I will try to find ideas that would be more suitable for the developers skills, I am not trying to overload you with work as you can imagine.

I'm glad you like my suggestions, my suggestions will be around the defensive aspects and to make the games a little bit longer, because it's unbearable to see that all the players only play fast games, so the updates are based on that and never on other possibilities, making the game harder and harder and forgetting to add options for the relaxed players like me. I wanted to write this so you can know that there are not only hotheaded players.

Encore merci pour vos efforts !

Maitreyarck commented 2 years ago

Bonjour !

Mes suggestions sont toujours présentes, puis n'oubliez pas le serveur sur Guilded, je me sens seul.