Vampire Thrall

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Ethan.: Vampire Thrall

Basics: The Vampire Thrall is aligned with the Vampire and wins by helping the Vampire turn all the living players into undead. The Vampire Thrall has the ability to "sense" if a player has been demonized and can "turn" them into a member of the underworld.

Details: Each night, the Vampire Thrall may choose to "sense" one living player to determine if they have been demonized by the Vampire. If the sensed player has been demonized, the Vampire Thrall may choose to "turn" them into a member of the underworld, making them a part of the Vampire's team. The turned player will win with the Vampire if all players are either Vampire, dead, or members of the undead. The Vampire Thrall is not able to communicate with the Vampire, adding a unique challenge to their role. If there are several Vampires, they work together.

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invincitank: so it just "attacks" a player as long as they are demonised?

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Ethan.:

so it just "attacks" a player as long as they are demonised?

doesn't attack, just straight up converts

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invincitank: i mean yea but outside of redirects its the same isnt it

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invincitank: either way

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invincitank: what happens if there are multipule thralls?

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Ethan.:

what happens if there are multipule thralls?

wdym?

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Ethan.: bot

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invincitank: how influential on a game can this even be, its just a guessing game of who is demonised

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Ethan.:

how influential on a game can this even be, its just a guessing game of who is demonised

well if they locate the vampire it serves as a confirmed way to make undead

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invincitank: can thralls know each other if there are multipule?

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invincitank: true but thats not gonna be the easiest is it

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Ethan.:

true but thats not gonna be the easiest is it

the first person they turn undead they can contact

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invincitank: fair

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Ethan.: also it not being an attack can beat other defences

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Ethan.: 1) Absences (such as hooker) 2) Effect Based Defenses (such as the witch's potion of life or the chef's charmed food) 3) Role Based Defenses (such as runner or scared wolf) 4) Partial Defenses (such as macho or idiot) 5) Role Based Role Changes (such as cursed civilian) 6) Effect Based Role Changes (such as vampire's demonization)

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invincitank: ok

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Ethan.:

can thralls know each other if there are multipule?

no cause there's no reason for them to

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Ethan.: it'd be like wisp

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invincitank: just wondering

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invincitank: ive never played wisp before

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invincitank: seems like thats more powerful isnt it

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invincitank: because no night is wasted

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Ethan.: it's more like old wisp

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Ethan.: but at least this gives negative feedback

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invincitank: can the thrall be demonised?

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invincitank: nope nvm

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Ethan.: <@277156693765390337> you like vamps

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Ethan.: more vamp roles

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Vera but actually a frog: like vamp wisp

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Vera but actually a frog: its a bit boring like this tho

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Vera but actually a frog: maybe sensing vamp unites?

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Ethan.:

its a bit boring like this tho

We can definitely add more to make it less boring

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e_thsn: <@242983689921888256> can I move this to unresolved and work on it for v17?

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mctsts: sure

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mctsts: idk why it isnt marked as unresolved to begin with

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e_thsn: idk either

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e_thsn: we can probably reuse bat for this too

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mctsts: yea that would make sense

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e_thsn: Bat (V2) a role that can detect members of the underworld/demonised players and attempt to turn a player turning a demonised non underworld player turns them undead turning a member of the underworld team causes the bat to join the underworld channel

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relaxedmato: I liked the "hooker-like" ability of bat

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shapechange: isn't this just underworld wisp

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shapechange: i'm not sure i like the idea of just taking one secondary role from a team and essentially switching out the adjectives

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shapechange: like yeah it's a bit different but it's so similar that it's pretty unmistakeable

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mctsts: Also active recruitment

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mctsts: Vampire can always be justified by ONLY recruiting if you would die anyway

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shapechange: yeah

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shapechange: i don't like this and i think it should be closed

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mctsts: same

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mctsts: lets close it