Howling Wolf

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The8thSoul: Howling Wolf [Wolf Power]

Basics Once per game, the Howling Wolf may choose to howl in the middle of the night, which allows an extra wolfpack kill but reveals their identity to some non-wolfpack players and alerts the entire Town.

Details Howling is an immediate action. Upon use, there is an immediate announcement. In addition, a maximum of 3 random non-wolfpack players are secretly told your identity. (Packless wolves count as non-wolfpack players.)

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The8thSoul:

In addition, your identity is confirmed in the wolfpack. This part is probably redundant tbh (I just added it in to make it clear that it works as a role against WWW)

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Ethan.: would be wk then imo

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Captain Luffy: Yeah wk, but I like it imo

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Captain Luffy: It should probably be a day end action, and only 1 player told

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Ethan.:

It should probably be a day end action, and only 1 player told

1 per x players

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The8thSoul: 👍

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Ts: I'm marking all role suggestions in the early stages as postponed as we're trying to wrap up v16

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mctsts: I like the general idea, however the telling 3 (or 1 if we do what luffy suggests) part seems like a slightly weird mechanic

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mctsts: oh yea and day end action makes sense too

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shapechange: this definitely has potential

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shapechange:

I like the general idea, however the telling 3 (or 1 if we do what luffy suggests) part seems like a slightly weird mechanic

i honestly like it, i think it balances the role pretty perfectly

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mctsts:

i honestly like it, i think it balances the role pretty perfectly

yea I think the balance of it is fine, but it seems like a strange mechanic to me

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shapechange: it's a little reminiscent of crypto

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shapechange: i like it

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shapechange: makes for some interesting strategies too

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mctsts: I don't like it, but I like the role idea overall and I'd reluctantly approve it cause I have no alternatives

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mctsts: Does it make a difference if 3 random people or everyone is told, actually?

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mctsts: Is there any realistic way out of getting revealed?

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shapechange: well if it's only one person, another wolf could lie

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shapechange: and say they were told it was x person

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mctsts: one person could be faked

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mctsts: would the Howling Wolf learn who that 1 person is?

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mctsts: I think that would be key to make it fakable

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shapechange: let's go with yes

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mctsts: I think I find that quite a bit better than just telling 3 people without learning who

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mctsts: 1 player and learning who has much more potential

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mctsts: It could actually even (rarely) help finding a packless wolf

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e_thsn: Isn't this kinda wolf cub since HW sacrifices themselves for an extra pack kill but the sacrifice is caused by the extra poll rather than the other way around

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mctsts: sort of, I guess

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mctsts: but its a bit more strategic

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e_thsn: Suggestion Howling Wolf can howl during the day End of Day it's revealed the howling wolf howled in storytime The next night the pack have an extra poll but all pack lycans are too busy howling and therefore roleblocked from individual actions

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e_thsn: <@242983689921888256> ^

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shapechange: that sucks

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shapechange: it's fine as is

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shapechange: it's similar to WC but has different strategy

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shapechange: <@544125116640919557> <@242983689921888256> so the current version of the role seems to be

• choosing to howl is an end day action
• howling gives wolves an extra poll the next night
• one living player, selected arbitrarily, is told the true identity of the howling wolf (start night?)
• howling can only be done once

do we want to put this to a vote?

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e_thsn: Sure, I'm not sure how it will work out though

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mctsts:

<@544125116640919557> <@242983689921888256> so the current version of the role seems to be

• choosing to howl is an end day action
• howling gives wolves an extra poll the next night
• one living player, selected arbitrarily, is told the true identity of the howling wolf (start night?)
• howling can only be done once

do we want to put this to a vote?

i thought it would be so the howling wolf will also know the player that learns their identity

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shapechange: that too yeah

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shapechange: you know, making this packless could add an interesting dimension to it

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shapechange: but i think i like it either way

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mctsts: but then we get the branding issue

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e_thsn: branding?

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mctsts: I think it might actually be nicer as a packless role

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shapechange: if it stays as a lycan it can keep howling wolf

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mctsts: But finding a packless role name is notoriously difficult

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mctsts:

if it stays as a lycan it can keep howling wolf

no thats bad

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shapechange: i agree

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shapechange: scout?

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mctsts: howling coyote