Buff plague

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e_thsn: Imo plague is a bit on the weaker side atm since they are very luck based on winning, if no one acts the plague can't spread, it's entirely guess based on who they infect and they could infect all people who can't spread it

my suggestions (Not all of them to be included)

• PB starts infected
• PC maybe gets a role checking ability
• Some kind of disguising

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mctsts: we just never got rid of the limit

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mctsts:

Like no one infected 0 rodents

PB can lynch their enemies <:pffffft:705639986384601110>

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mctsts: however PB pretty much never runs out

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mctsts: this was the very first version of Plague Bearer (from 2019-06-13 VIP Rule Book)

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mctsts: so the limit has just always been there

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venomousbirds: phone might be taking my reactions so if it doesnt show up, im voting no

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e_thsn:

phone might be taking my reactions so if it doesnt show up, im voting no

Any reason why?

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venomousbirds: i think plague is fine as is

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venomousbirds: its quite close to winning a lot

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e_thsn: Last few games it's been quite far off

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venomousbirds: so its doing well as solo (solo isnt supposed to win consistently)

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captain.luffy: If we remove the limit can we remove the limit on plague doc too

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mctsts:

i think plague is fine as is

same, but 2) doesn't really change its power

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mctsts: it only tries to get people to be smarter about how they play

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venomousbirds:

If we remove the limit can we remove the limit on plague doc too

makes sense, the limit was there to match the pbs limit

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mctsts:

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Two small Plague buff suggestions:

1) Plague Bearer and Plague Carrier start out plagued (but unaffected) Makes spreading the plague slightly faster

2) Remove the rodent limit The rodents are not really ever used up and at absolute maximum I could imagine the game going 1 phase longer than the rodent limit but not really longer than that, so I don't see this making much of a difference, however if there's no limit player will be less likely to not use rodents (which is done too often, but a bad strategy)

✅ Yes to both together 1️⃣ Yes to just 1) 2️⃣ Yes to just 2) (Vote 1️⃣, 2️⃣ and ✅ to approve of both, if you're fine with just 1 of them getting approved) ⛔ No to both 🤷 Abstain

2 passes, 1 does not

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mctsts: <@&1045732542399131769> changing 2) acutally is significant, as 2 PBs share rodents, but now it would actually double the amount of possible contaminations

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mctsts: anyone want to reconsider?

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e_thsn: We could just limit it to 1 PB existing at a time like reaper and devil

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captain.luffy: I don't think we would use multiple pb

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e_thsn: We tend to pair it with PC anyway

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e_thsn:

I don't think we would use multiple pb

LA

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mctsts: yeah but the change is already so insignificant

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mctsts: we can achieve the same thing by telling people that not using rodents is generally a bad strategy

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e_thsn: Isn't telling people that host interference though

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e_thsn: We don't tell wolves that random attacks night 1 is generally a bad idea

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mctsts: I definitely would do both of these

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e_thsn: I would but I always thought it would be considered host interference preventing someone from making a play that isn't good but also not gamethrowing

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mctsts: especially in early game I dont see any harm in giving players basic advice that is common knowledge

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mctsts: that just makes the game better for everyone

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e_thsn: Fair I guess I'll start doing it then

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e_thsn: Oh right I was halfway through my guide actually

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e_thsn: I forgot to ask people for tips they knew of

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shapechange:

<@&1045732542399131769> changing 2) acutally is significant, as 2 PBs share rodents, but now it would actually double the amount of possible contaminations

yeah ouch that sucks

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shapechange: changed my votes

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mctsts: then both dont pass

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shapechange: I'm kind of with Vera in that I don't think plague need a buff, but I think one as small as 1️⃣ is enough to give them a bit of a boost without making them significantly overpowered.

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e_thsn: 1 also means that people start dying slightly earlier

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e_thsn: N2 rather than N3

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shapechange: only if there's a D0 visit on plague team

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e_thsn: yeah

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venomousbirds: still on no change :)

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venomousbirds: plague as a solo team is doing pretty good as is

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venomousbirds: buffing them seems unnecessary

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mctsts: this fails