Wisp Discussion

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mctsts: <@458727748504911884>

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shapechange: yeah

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captainluffy:

Basics
The Wisp visits a person each day, igniting them if they are powdered.```
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Basics The Wisp visits a person each day, igniting them if they are powdered, powdering them if not.```

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captainluffy: also the immediate part needs a bit more clarification. in the part that its inserted to, its not clear wether the visit is immediate or just the powder

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captainluffy: and finally, if the visit is immediate, and the visit results in ignition. whats the edge case for if they are lynched or day killed (barber or devil). whatever it is, it should be specified too

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captainluffy: those are my 3 suggestions for improving the desc

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venomousbirds: some rewording

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captainluffy:

and finally, if the visit is immediate, and the visit results in ignition. whats the edge case for if they are lynched or day killed (barber or devil). whatever it is, it should be specified too

do we have whats the answer for this?

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shapechange: no, we all hate wisp

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venomousbirds: wisp is good because youre like cit but pyro and you have an ability

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venomousbirds:

End Day Effects - End day effects (e.g. Chef's Poison) happen - if the player doing them is still alive. i assume nothing happens because the player igniting is not alive after lynch

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venomousbirds: so thats fixed

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captainluffy:

End Day Effects - End day effects (e.g. Chef's Poison) happen - if the player doing them is still alive. i assume nothing happens because the player igniting is not alive after lynch

yes but the visit to ignite was immediate

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captainluffy: and the result is just delayed?

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venomousbirds: yes?

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venomousbirds: because it cant be executed

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venomousbirds: igniting is an end day action

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captainluffy: yes but the visit was immediate, its combined in 1 action

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captainluffy: its complicated

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captainluffy: ts defined it as compound action

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venomousbirds: ???

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venomousbirds: its 2 different things

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venomousbirds: its a visit (immediate, powders if not powdered, queues an ignite of powdered) and later, optionally, an ignite

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shapechange: visits aren't actions iirc

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shapechange: /abilities

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shapechange: it's not a Formal WWR Word

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captainluffy: its a compound ability timing. meaning its 1 action, but its affects happen at multiple different timings

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captainluffy: timings are immediate, or end/start phase

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venomousbirds: i dont think we should define it as that?

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captainluffy: thats what ts defined it as

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venomousbirds: <@242983689921888256> go have an opinion on this matter pls

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mctsts: what

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shapechange:

i dont think we should define it as that?

yeah this is like the core problem of this issue. it feels like it's two separate actions, but because visits aren't themselves abilities, it's one action with two potential consequences

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venomousbirds: i dont understandhow it cant be 2 actions

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venomousbirds: its 2 things

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mctsts: this can be defined as

• Immediate Day: ‣ Process: Attribute Check @Selection for Powdered ‣ Evaluate: ‣ @Result is Success: Apply Powdered to @Selection ‣ Otherwise: Apply WispMarked to @Selection • End Day: • Attack @(WispMarked) • Remove WispMarked from @(WispMarked)

(roughly, this may contain some minor syntax errors)

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venomousbirds: its visit -> powder or visit -> dont powder -> ignite end night

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venomousbirds:

this can be defined as

• Immediate Day: ‣ Process: Attribute Check @Selection for Powdered ‣ Evaluate: ‣ @Result is Success: Apply Powdered to @Selection ‣ Otherwise: Apply WispMarked to @Selection • End Day: • Attack @(WispMarked) • Remove WispMarked from @(WispMarked)

(roughly, this may contain some minor syntax errors)

yeah that makes sense now

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mctsts: it eithers applys the powder or it just marks it for an attack which occurs later

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mctsts: I think the feedback is also end day so that would need to be contained in End Day as well

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captainluffy: so what happens if its lynched

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captainluffy: the action is immediate but the kill is end day

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captainluffy: i would like to specify this in the role

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mctsts: kill doesn't go through

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mctsts: wisp is dead

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captainluffy: but a powder would go through?

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venomousbirds: exactly

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venomousbirds: yes

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venomousbirds: because powder is immediate

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mctsts: yep

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captainluffy: ok i will specify this in the description