PD update

[McTsts]

PD currently wins when plague team is eliminated. change this to be when "plague" is eliminated (i.e no active contaminated people and no rats left). functionally very little change, except that PD can technically win with plague team now, thus making it definitely not have an alignment

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mctsts: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/issues/1214

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e_thsn:

PD currently wins when plague team is eliminated. change this to be when "plague" is eliminated (i.e no active contaminated people and no rats left). functionally very little change, except that PD can technically win with plague team now, thus making it definitely not have an alignment

Cursed, pacifist Plague win

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e_thsn: Makes them like friendly enemies

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e_thsn: And Plague don't have a reason to kill PD because if plague wins then there's a chance PD will win ig

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mctsts: oh yeah PD and PB can win together then

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mctsts: PB just has to use up all their rodents

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mctsts: and when everyone contaminated has died PD/PB team up and lynch everyone else

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mctsts: easy

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mctsts: ah I didnt read the fiurst message

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e_thsn: PD can also cure PB the day they plan to win

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mctsts: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/1224 Made a PR for this

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mctsts:

PD currently wins when plague team is eliminated. change this to be when "plague" is eliminated (i.e no active contaminated people and no rats left). functionally very little change, except that PD can technically win with plague team now, thus making it definitely not have an alignment

<@&1045732542399131769> change PD to win when the "plague" is elimninated, not plague team?

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captainluffy: btw if plague bearer is infected, its immune. so would that prevent pd wincon

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shapechange: people can still visit pb

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mctsts: pb cant be infected

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mctsts: only pc can be

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captainluffy: Ur right

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e_thsn: and even then PD can cure PC

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captainluffy: well it has limited cures

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captainluffy:

The Plague Bearer cannot win while a Plague Doctor is alive. this should be changed too i guess

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captainluffy:

If no members of the plague team or channel remain, all players are no longer contaminated, although they are not informed about this. should be no longer contaminated and contagious

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shapechange:

If no members of the plague team or channel remain, all players are no longer contaminated, although they are not informed about this. should be no longer contaminated and contagious

it would be more suitable to specify that players who are no longer contaminated stop being contagious imo

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captainluffy: it says they will stop being contagious when they die from the disease

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shapechange:

The Plague Bearer cannot win while a Plague Doctor is alive. this should be changed too i guess

this is what the update is removing by default, pretty much

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shapechange:

it says they will stop being contagious when they die from the disease

this is true and also not really relevant to what I'm saying

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shapechange: I'm saying we should say that players stop being contagious when they stop being contaminated. this is how it functions anyway

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captainluffy: i guess it doesnt really explain what contagious is anywhere

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captainluffy: or at least how someone becomes contagious

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captainluffy: it just says "Any player who visits or is visited by a contagious player is immediately contaminated"

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shapechange: no

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shapechange: line before that

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shapechange: "contaminated players are contagious"

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captainluffy: cuz i know contagious is a separact effect from contaminated

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captainluffy: but "contaminated players are contagious" kind of phrases it as if its one effect

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shapechange:

Contaminated players are contagious, and remain so til their death. my proposed change: Contaminated players are contagious, and remain so til they are no longer contaminated or they die.

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shapechange:

but "contaminated players are contagious" kind of phrases it as if its one effect

but it's not one effect, bc pc is contagious but not contaminated (right?)

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mctsts: they should be one

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captainluffy: its good to specify the die part, for future proofing. in case some role can visit the dead

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captainluffy: like old coroner

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captainluffy: yeah exorcist also treats it as 2 effects

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captainluffy:

but it's not one effect, bc pc is contagious but not contaminated (right?)

yeah it is, im just pointing out that the phrasing is poor there

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captainluffy:

The Plague Carrier can be a carrier of the plague but once they become contaminated they don't die and instead stay contagious for the rest of the game. it sounds like they still get contaminated

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captainluffy: also the basics section of the plague carrier is so uh... uninformative

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shapechange: yeah maybe we should look at redoing the plague descs

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shapechange: <@242983689921888256> did you want to fuse contagious and contaminated?

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shapechange: i.e, basically get rid of the word "contagious"

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shapechange: if you did tell me now bc i am reviewing the plague descs

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mctsts: is there even a difference?

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shapechange: pretty much no

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mctsts: then yes