New Cerberus

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captainluffy: check alcoholic

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e_thsn: ~alco

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captainluffy: i dont know if its possible to have two duration types at once

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captainluffy: so u might have to revoke at end night

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e_thsn: ah so just a remove Defense:Cerberus from @Target

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e_thsn: in the on attack thing

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captainluffy: yes and after that go deselect the target

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captainluffy: otherwise theyd remain targetted

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e_thsn: oh true

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captainluffy:

in the on attack thing

or on end night

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captainluffy: the thing to type is untarget

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e_thsn: yep

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captainluffy: you also need to remove defence and untarget at passive end night

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captainluffy: otherwise theyd remain targetted and protected

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captainluffy: you dont need to remove defence on attack because the defence was until use

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e_thsn:

you dont need to remove defence on attack because the defence was until use

yeah changed it to phase

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captainluffy: actually i think its better if you just make the target action (~phase) as well

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e_thsn: Oh I can do that?

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captainluffy: i dont know tbh

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captainluffy: but i dont see why not

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e_thsn: ~assistant

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e_thsn: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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captainluffy: in this, assistant can technically keep targetting people after the ability is gone

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captainluffy: but the ability wont activate

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e_thsn: yeah it always has been able to

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e_thsn: to pass plague

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captainluffy: i dont think its supposed to

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e_thsn: it's intended

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e_thsn: I remember us using it once to spread plague to the last wolf

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captainluffy: yeah but was it used up

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e_thsn: I mean all the other targeting roles could re target if they didn't die

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captainluffy: well if its not intended, then it just needs to obstruct itself permanently after use

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captainluffy: i think "On @Target Visited [Attack, Attribute: @Target lacks Soulless]: " needs to be "On @Target Visited: [Attack, Attribute: @Target lacks Soulless]"

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e_thsn: it has the [] before the : in the guide

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captainluffy: well u did it the opposite way earlier in the desc

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captainluffy:

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e_thsn: huh

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captainluffy: is the target informed of losing their soul

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e_thsn:

Cerberus | Solo Killing - Hell Team | Limited Basics Each night the Cerberus may guard a player, if attacked they will be protected in exchange for their soul, will be used to attack their attacker. The Cerberus wins with the devil. It joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. The Cerberus can use the hell team's soul pool. Details Each night the Cerberus can select a player to guard, they may not select soulless players. If attacked the Cerberus will protect their target and in exchange take their soul, making them soulless, if the player has no soul they will no longer be protected. However, the soul does not add to hell's collective soul pool, and instead the Cerberus uses it to attack the player who attacked their target.

During the first phase, the Cerberus may choose a role as a weak disguise. This defaults to citizen.

At the start of the game, the Cerberus' soul is added to the hell team's soul pool. The Cerberus then becomes soulless. The Cerberus may use souls from the pool to protect or attack a player. If the Cerberus is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Cerberus. See $info souls for a detailed explanation.

Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion or recruitment of a member will fail in some manner.

Simplified Each night the Cerberus may guard a player, if attacked they will be protected in exchange for their soul, will be used to attack their attacker. The Cerberus wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil. The Cerberus can use the hell team's pool of souls.

Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion of a member will fail in some manner.

Formalized Inherit: Souls Immediate Day: Weakly Disguise @Self as @Selection [Temporal: Day 0] {Forced: Citizen} Immediate Night: [Attribute: @Selection lacks Soulless] • Protect @Selection from Attacks through Active Defense (~Phase) • Target @Selection (~Phase) On @Target Visited [Attack, Attribute: @Target lacks Soulless]: • Apply Soulless to @Target (~Persistent) {Visitless} • Attack @Attacker • Remove Defense:Cerberus from @Target • Untarget

<@242983689921888256> is this description okay?

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mctsts: I read it earlier and it seemed good then

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e_thsn: 👍

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e_thsn: <@&1045732542399131769> First suggestion of the newest Version Cerberus V2, can protect a player each night, if that player is attacked they forcibly sell their soul, but their soul is immediately used by cerberus to attack their attacker

Keeps the role's powers the same pretty much just executes it differently Yes No Not Bothered

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mctsts: much improved version of the original

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mctsts:

Cerberus | Solo Killing - Hell Team | Limited Basics Each night the Cerberus may guard a player, if attacked they will be protected in exchange for their soul, will be used to attack their attacker. The Cerberus wins with the devil. It joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. The Cerberus can use the hell team's soul pool. Details Each night the Cerberus can select a player to guard, they may not select soulless players. If attacked the Cerberus will protect their target and in exchange take their soul, making them soulless, if the player has no soul they will no longer be protected. However, the soul does not add to hell's collective soul pool, and instead the Cerberus uses it to attack the player who attacked their target.

During the first phase, the Cerberus may choose a role as a weak disguise. This defaults to citizen.

At the start of the game, the Cerberus' soul is added to the hell team's soul pool. The Cerberus then becomes soulless. The Cerberus may use souls from the pool to protect or attack a player. If the Cerberus is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Cerberus. See $info souls for a detailed explanation.

Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion or recruitment of a member will fail in some manner.

Simplified Each night the Cerberus may guard a player, if attacked they will be protected in exchange for their soul, will be used to attack their attacker. The Cerberus wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil. The Cerberus can use the hell team's pool of souls.

Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion of a member will fail in some manner.

Formalized Inherit: Souls Immediate Day: Weakly Disguise @Self as @Selection [Temporal: Day 0] {Forced: Citizen} Immediate Night: [Attribute: @Selection lacks Soulless] • Protect @Selection from Attacks through Active Defense (~Phase) • Target @Selection (~Phase) On @Target Visited [Attack, Attribute: @Target lacks Soulless]: • Apply Soulless to @Target (~Persistent) {Visitless} • Attack @Attacker • Remove Defense:Cerberus from @Target • Untarget

a full description can be found here, idk why ethan didnt link it

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e_thsn: I guess my reply didn't work <:pffffft:705639986384601110>

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e_thsn: a pro of this is we bring back

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venomousbirds: yes, mostly for the icon

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captainluffy: imo its too strong of a power to combine with the passive soul defence

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e_thsn:

imo its too strong of a power to combine with the passive soul defence

it needs soul use to attack as a soul kill <:pffffft:705639986384601110>

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e_thsn: also not really