Skipping Monarch election may be the best choice for town

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mctsts: imo monarch needs to be part of the elected roles order for there to be a good reason for town to elect them D0

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captainluffy: I also have some small tweak suggestions for monarch

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captainluffy: Mainly changing its action to night

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mctsts: any reason?

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captainluffy: Yeah because if it's day u can see who is getting voted and act accordingly

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captainluffy: If it's night u have to plan

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captainluffy: And Ur enemies can stragizd around it

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mctsts: yeah makes sense

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e_thsn:

imo monarch needs to be part of the elected roles order for there to be a good reason for town to elect them D0

if it joins action order does it mean it won't have the heir thing

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mctsts: it would keep it

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mctsts: so it would still be pretty much d0 only

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e_thsn: so they just can't elect mayor until they elect a monarch is what you mean

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mctsts: yea

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mctsts: which sort of forces them to elect monarch d0

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shapechange: okay instead of having it join the election order i would suggest instead that mayor can't be elected until monarch has been

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shapechange: bc then if a monarch is killed before it chooses an heir, it doesn't interrupt elections again

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shapechange: which incentivises choosing an heir of course

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captainluffy: I was thinking that too

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captainluffy: It's a better idea I think

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mctsts: yeah that works too, though is a bit more awkward

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mctsts: the other solution wouldve required making choosing a heir mandatory

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mctsts: since otherwise it could be abused for election blocking

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mctsts: <@&1045732542399131769> suggested changes for monarch

✅ Change knighting to a night action ⛔ Do not change knighting 🤷 abstain

Change how monarch is elected. Both variants aim to preserve current behaivor of monarch election being D0 and it not being re-elected.

1️⃣ add monarch into the election order, but make picking a heir a forced action - more consistent as it then works same as all the other elected roles, but there is a chance both monarch and heir die at the same time causing a re-election 2️⃣ a mayor cannot be elected until a monarch is elected - not consistent with current elected roles, but monarch re-election is impossible 🚫 keep current behaivor abstain

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shapechange:

<@&1045732542399131769> suggested changes for monarch

✅ Change knighting to a night action ⛔ Do not change knighting 🤷 abstain

Change how monarch is elected. Both variants aim to preserve current behaivor of monarch election being D0 and it not being re-elected.

1️⃣ add monarch into the election order, but make picking a heir a forced action - more consistent as it then works same as all the other elected roles, but there is a chance both monarch and heir die at the same time causing a re-election 2️⃣ a mayor cannot be elected until a monarch is elected - not consistent with current elected roles, but monarch re-election is impossible abstain

you need to add a "nope" option for the election order one

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mctsts: right

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mctsts: for people that didnt watch s11g2, I dont think or 🚫 are options that make sense as either option means we might as well remove monarch

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mctsts: which is a valid opinion, but not what we're discussing here

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mctsts: well actually unless the meta changes I suppose

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mctsts: my data is based on one game so it may be flawed

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mctsts: but several townies concluded that the benefit of monarch is smallest to town and greater to scum, so not electing is preferable over electing badly

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mctsts: Seems we have a pretty clear result

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shapechange: now it can be a knight action

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e_thsn: 🙂

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shapechange: why do you hate me phantom

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phantomtomic: I don’t hate you 🥺

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venomousbirds: sweet resolution

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venomousbirds: couldnt have com eup with this myself

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venomousbirds: like it

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mctsts: wins 2️⃣ wins

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mctsts: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/1327

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mctsts: <@&1045732542399131769> requesting anyone to review it

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shapechange: no

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captainluffy: it looks good to me

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mctsts: I need a review on github 🙂

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mctsts: <:pensivebread:800001047966908426>

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captainluffy: oh oops

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captainluffy: ok ill do that

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captainluffy: i didnt know i had perms to do that

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captainluffy: i didnt previously

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mctsts: ah, i wouldve thought everyone already had these permissions

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mctsts: but ig it changed when I redid the permissions